Coronavirus in Massachusetts (automobile, date, offering)

[Bridge781]

It’s all going to just back to how people of color are economically disparaged, live in homes where they can’t social distance. There’s not going to be any solution for it and yes the bigger issue of covid 19 will be forgotten and becomes to many oh how can we save these people.

[Bridge781]

The race thing had already been mentioned in this thread. I wasn’t the first to bring it up but they are really really screaming about this all over the media now.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

The elderly were more at risk because of their fragile immune systems. They’re more at risk for many diseases.

It’s been said that black/Hispanics often have jobs where they’re essential employees and can’t stay home. What else is there to investigate? They’re not practicing social distancing so they’re going to be more likely to catch it. Nothing more to discuss.

You are making a big assumption about blacks and hispanics not practicing social distancing. I don't even know of any anecdotal evidence supporting that.

The higher incidence of serious illness or death from covid-19 for those groups could be attributed to a number of reasons - people who live in poor areas might not have ready access to medical care, blacks have a higher rate of diabetes and HBP than caucasians. Hispanics who are not here legally might delay seeking medical care out of fear that they will be deported - or there could be genetic issues.

I am HLA-B27 positive, that doesn't guarantee that I won't get ill from a virus, but people with the particular allele that I have, have been shown to be immune to hep C, HIV and various other viral diseases. Maybe blacks and hispanics have a genetic variant that makes them more susceptible. I don't know the answer and I don't think anyone has researched that.

[Bridge781]

Yes people in poor areas or areas where they live on top of one another will be at a higher risk. No one is at a higher risk simply based on skin color.

My mother in law has asthma and diabetes and she’s white. She’s trying her best not to get this by staying home.

This is a global pandemic. Everyone is at risk. Obviously non poor folks have it better as they do in many other situations.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

The elderly were more at risk because of their fragile immune systems. They’re more at risk for many diseases.

It’s been said that black/Hispanics often have jobs where they’re essential employees and can’t stay home. What else is there to investigate? They’re not practicing social distancing so they’re going to be more likely to catch it. Nothing more to discuss.

A lot. Since it is a lot more complicated than that.

Originally Posted by Bridge781

Yes people in poor areas or areas where they live on top of one another will be at a higher risk. No one is at a higher risk simply based on skin color.
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You state this as fact. How do you know this?

[Bridge781]

It started in China, made its ways to Europe and now has taken out many people in the US.

Do you have info that blacks and Hispanics are more susceptible to it ? I think we both know that they are not. A virus does not discriminate or gravitate towards a certain race. Come on. If people are not being safe though there’s more of a chance they will get it.

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

Yes people in poor areas or areas where they live on top of one another will be at a higher risk. No one is at a higher risk simply based on skin color.

That is an honorable approach, and probably the primary reason African Americans are being hospitalized at higher rates.

This said, I've read at least a handful of legitimate studies which suggest those of African decent are significantly more like to carry a small genetic variation (74% versus 4% in western European decent) which leads to higher rates of renal disease and, as a result, hypertension. A number of other studies have drawn similar conclusions, but do not address the specific genetic variation.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

It started in China, made its ways to Europe and now has taken out many people in the US.

Do you have info that blacks and Hispanics are more susceptible to it ? I think we both know that they are not. A virus does not discriminate or gravitate towards a certain race. Come on. If people are not being safe though there’s more of a chance they will get it.

The bolded is factually incorrect. Some viruses do. See the small pox virus and is susceptibility in different races. Perhaps even yellow fever, although that one is debated.



Diseases certainly can and do have different susceptibilities to difference races. Not all. But some do. Absolutely they do. Plenty of diseases do. Malaria for one. We don't have the research yet on this one, but its hardly far fetched to hypothesize different races/ethnic backgrounds have different susceptibilities or vulnerabilities. We know the immune systems of different races respond differently.

[Bridge781]

Timberline it almost sounds like you are hopeful that people of color are more susceptible to covid 19.

[bohemka]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

Timberline it almost sounds like you are hopeful that people of color are more susceptible to covid 19.

I think you're trying to pick another fight. Go for a walk.