Taxes Are Killing Long Island (Merrick, Nassau: salary, living, price)

[ClarkStreetKid]

How do the Indians do it back in India? They don't have lawns. At least unless you have a lot of money that is. Also the weather isn't the best for a nice lawn.

It's funny, but you'll often see the family "supervising" the Spanish speaking lawn guys by following them around while they mow, and dig and redo the garden.

[ovi8]

^ well it's not just the lawns... they have servants for everything in India. And they're not Spanish. Go get me some tea from the kitchen, you lesser-class Indian!

[long isle]

Originally Posted by peconic117

Legal immigration needs to be seriously reduced as well, we need to move back to a merit based system and stop prioritizing third worldera via chain migration. This would actually give legal immigrants time to fully integrate which some say can take up to a century.

Americans need to reproduce at a more prolific rate for this to be possible.

[peconic117]

Originally Posted by long isle

Americans need to reproduce at a more prolific rate for this to be possible.

Mass migration is only a temporary solution to aging populations reducing the average age by only a few years. It also brings with it plenty of negative consequences of its own.

[AcesUp]

Originally Posted by Interlude

If housing prices are driven into the stratosphere because of external forces like Democrats wanting more voters or Republicans wanting cheap labor for their donors, that's the very definition of "factors other than themselves".

Yes immigration is a problem, but your are politicizing this when the primary reason for the increase in asset values has been the low interest rate environment that has been in effect over the last decade. Generally, each and everyone of us had the opportunity to participate in this growth. Blaming someone else for which you have a significant advantage over, economically, academically, and socially seems misguided.

[Interlude]

Originally Posted by AcesUp

Yes immigration is a problem, but your are politicizing this when the primary reason for the increase in asset values has been the low interest rate environment that has been in effect over the last decade. Generally, each and everyone of us had the opportunity to participate in this growth. Blaming someone else for which you have a significant advantage over, economically, academically, and socially seems misguided.

Excuse me? Perhaps you should look at income numbers before spouting nonsense about what "advantages" I have.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...usehold_income

Top 20 ethnic groups by income:

Indian American : $101,591[2]
Taiwanese American : $85,566[2]
Filipino American : $82,389[2]
Australian American : $76,095[3]
Latvian American : $76,040[3]
British American : $75,788[3]
European American : $75,341[3]
Russian American : $75,305[3]
Lithuanian American : $73,678[3]
Austrian American : $72,284[3]
Scandinavian American : $72,075[3]
Serbian American : $71,394[3]
Croatian American : $71,047[3]
Japanese American : $70,261[2]
Swiss American : $69,941[3]
Slovene American : $69,842[3]
Bulgarian American : $69,758[3]
Romanian American : $69,598[3]
Chinese American: $69,586[2]
(including Taiwanese American)
Lebanese American : $69,514[3]

My family is Argentine and Italian. I don't see those groups in the top 20. I do however note that Indians are doing the best, and several Asian groups that are coming to the US are also doing quite well despite the "advantages" you think I have. Might explain why entire regions of NY and many other cities in the US and Canada are becoming dominated by these groups.

And please explain how the low interest rate environment explains regional differences in recovery. We've barely recouped pre-2008 in most parts of LI. Other parts of the country, subject to the same interest rates, have not recovered at all. Apparently Vegas needs more than cheap mortgages to boost values.

[Interlude]

Originally Posted by ClarkStreetKid

How do the Indians do it back in India? They don't have lawns. At least unless you have a lot of money that is. Also the weather isn't the best for a nice lawn.

It's funny, but you'll often see the family "supervising" the Spanish speaking lawn guys by following them around while they mow, and dig and redo the garden.

Third world countries have peasant classes to do the cheap manual labor. Indians used lower caste servants, Mexicans use mestizo servants, etc. The US is headed in the same direction.

[ovi8]

Originally Posted by Interlude

I do however note that Indians are doing the best

Huge difference between them and the rest. Other than being in the medical professions, I wonder what else accounts for this. Entrepreneurs?

[long isle]

Originally Posted by Interlude

Third world countries have peasant classes to do the cheap manual labor. Indians used lower caste servants, Mexicans use mestizo servants, etc. The US is headed in the same direction.

Hasn't the US always had a cheap source of labor? Comparing the US and India is pretty foolish as Indian history is 10x longer than the United States.

[monstermagnet]

Originally Posted by AcesUp

Yes immigration is a problem, but your are politicizing this when the primary reason for the increase in asset values has been the low interest rate environment that has been in effect over the last decade. Generally, each and everyone of us had the opportunity to participate in this growth. Blaming someone else for which you have a significant advantage over, economically, academically, and socially seems misguided.

Wow, that's daft. No one under $1m income had an "opportunity to participate in this growth." Middle class incomes DOWN since 2011 (and more before that). Lower class down 19%!! Only class up is top 10% w/ a 5.4% boost. The bi-partisan trickle down party is doing just as planned. making the rich richer and everyone else poorer. While working more hours and being MORE productive. Really completely unrelated to the immigration question.