Racism really that rampant in Indy? (Salem, Greensboro: high school, college, live)

[grmasterb]

Originally Posted by RonnieJonez

It's impossible to quantify what percent of a particular city is racist, and to what extent they are racist. They may just be racially ignorant (believe all racial stereotypes are completely true - there's no exceptions) opposed to being a racist, who has a strong dislike for particular races.

I think it's a fair assumption by the modern world that Indiana as a whole, is generally a more racist/racially ignorant state than most.

You know when posters have trouble admitting racism exists - it's something they've been conditioned to believe. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance in this topic regarding racism. In larger cities, while there is much more diversity and integration, people generally can admit racism still exists.

It's something mid-sized cities still struggle with, proof they still hold onto Main Street USA somehow.

Oooh.....cognitive dissonance. Moving on from "standard deviation"??

And how did you come to this "fair assumption"?? Through some Hoosiers you met in Chicago??

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by RonnieJonez

It's impossible to quantify what percent of a particular city is racist, and to what extent they are racist. They may just be racially ignorant (believe all racial stereotypes are completely true - there's no exceptions) opposed to being a racist, who has a strong dislike for particular races.

I think it's a fair assumption by the modern world that Indiana as a whole, is generally a more racist/racially ignorant state than most.

Wow, I actually agree with you.

[tollfree]

Originally Posted by grmasterb

Oooh.....cognitive dissonance. Moving on from "standard deviation"??

And how did you come to this "fair assumption"?? Through some Hoosiers you met in Chicago??

I haven't been to Mars for example - but I know it's red.

It's well known to everyone. Indiana, especially Indianapolis has made some impressive strides, but it's still seen as backwater to most of America. Blame the NASCAR culture, being close to Kentucky, Indiana State Fair, list goes on & on.

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by RonnieJonez

I haven't been to Mars for example - but I know it's red.

It's well known to everyone. Indiana, especially Indianapolis has made some impressive strides, but it's still seen as backwater to most of America. Blame the NASCAR culture, being close to Kentucky, Indiana State Fair, list goes on & on.

Now I do have to stop you here. I don't think most people outside of Chicago see Indiana as the backwater to most of America. It isn't like people really say things like, "The South is full of stupid hicks. Oh and Indiana is the same way." People don't look at Indiana the same as Kentucky. I don't even think people look at Indianapolis as being conservative anymore.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by wh15395

Now I do have to stop you here. I don't think most people outside of Chicago see Indiana as the backwater to most of America. It isn't like people really say things like, "The South is full of stupid hicks. Oh and Indiana is the same way." People don't look at Indiana the same as Kentucky. I don't even think people look at Indianapolis as being conservative anymore.

I think it is fair to say people rarely think of Indiana at all unless they are forced.

Fun fact, Parks and Recreation was set in Indiana thanks in part to the fact that nationally, Indiana doesn't elicit any kind of immediate response from people.

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by Toxic Toast

I think it is fair to say people rarely think of Indiana at all unless they are forced.

Fun fact, Parks and Recreation was set in Indiana thanks in part to the fact that nationally, Indiana doesn't elicit any kind of immediate response from people.

Haha that's true. Kind of sad, but true. I remember hearing during the Super Bowl that most people didn't have an opinion on whether they like Indianapolis or not.

[urbanologist]

Originally Posted by RonnieJonez

I think it's a fair assumption by the modern world that Indiana as a whole, is generally a more racist/racially ignorant state than most.

I don't like to generalize because it's sounds like you're speaking for everyone. It's not like Indy suffered the race riots like Detroit, LA or Birmingham did so no we don't have that kind of history of being the most racially divided place. I grew up with different cultures so no that statement isn't accurate and does not speak for me who is in Indiana or some of the people I know personally. Racism can exist in any race group and any place. Yes, sure you can have racism in Indianapolis just as you can in a bigger city. It's everywhere. You also can find people who don't always have preconceived notions and ignorance about a particular group. Why assume if you don't know "everyone" in Indiana. You need to be a bit more specific.

[tollfree]

A place can have race riots as part of their history - and still be a more culturally integrated place in the future.

Racism can exist in any race group is a popular ideology in the midwest. The ones who have historically had to endure racism, can be just as racist as a KKK Grand Wizard, lol.

Can a minority be racist? Yes (but not nearly to the same extent on a grand scale)

Does it matter? No (besides upsetting people)

It's not like you have majority-black police forces targeting whites in the midwest. The opposite, is true - but they have trouble admitting it. Midwesterners generally are taught from birth to see the world through a rose colored shade, "no one is bad besides notorious criminals/dictators" mentality.

[urbanologist]

Originally Posted by RonnieJonez

A place can have race riots as part of their history - and still be a more culturally integrated place in the future.

A lot of the homes and buildings destroyed during the riots of Detroit never recovered. Indy didn't suffer the major set backs that Birmingham and Detroit did. If Detroit and Birmingham are so integrated then why haven't all the people move back to the city from the suburbs in droves. Keep in mind as years have passed over time racism isn't at the level as it once was back then. Times have change. The race relations is much better in those two cities today.

Can a minority be racist? Yes (but not nearly to the same extent on a grand scale)

No matter where it comes from racism is racism. The Black Panthers and KKK are racist groups. Sure you will have those groups out there but they don't speak for everyone in the Midwest.

It's not like you have majority-black police forces targeting whites in the midwest. The opposite, is true - but they have trouble admitting it. Midwesterners generally are taught from birth to see the world through a rose colored shade, "no one is bad besides notorious criminals/dictators" mentality.

There's no justification for any group to be a racist. We're not living in the 1950's anymore get real. I grew up in Birmingham and can tell you stories about that city. Indy didn't experience anything that extreme. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[urbanologist]

Originally Posted by RonnieJonez

A place can have race riots as part of their history - and still be a more culturally integrated place in the future.

A lot of the homes and buildings destroyed during the riots of Detroit never recovered. Indy didn't suffer the major set backs that Birmingham and Detroit did. If Detroit and Birmingham were so integrated then why haven't all the people move back to the city from the suburbs in droves. Keep in mind as years have passed over time racism isn't at the level as it once was back then. Times have change.

Can a minority be racist? Yes (but not nearly to the same extent on a grand scale)

No matter where it comes from racism is racism. The Black Panthers and KKK are racist groups. Sure you will have those groups out there but they don't speak for everyone in the Midwest.

It's not like you have majority-black police forces targeting whites in the midwest. The opposite, is true - but they have trouble admitting it. Midwesterners generally are taught from birth to see the world through a rose colored shade, "no one is bad besides notorious criminals/dictators" mentality.

There's no justification for any group to be a racist. We're not living in the 1950's anymore get real. I grew up in Birmingham and can tell you stories about that city. Indy didn't have anything like that. You have no idea what you're talking about.