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Old 04-24-2010, 06:55 PM
 
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Go to two of the most liberal cities in the country (San Francisco and Berkeley California) and you'll find absolute hatred for Christianity and Catholic church. They're also in favor of amnesty and was (or still is) a safe haven area for illegal aliens.
So say you. Which of course doesn't mean much.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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It's funny how some people "care" so much about the Constitution unless they have some personal grudge or some such issue.
Even funnier when those people also dismiss, disregard and advocate for the breaking of US immigration laws.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Even funnier when those people also dismiss, disregard and advocate for the breaking of US immigration laws.
Show me one post, where someone says we should just let anyone into the country, and do nothing about it.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:05 PM
 
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Show me one post, where someone says we should just let anyone into the country, and do nothing about it.
She can't. She'll just keep peddling the lie though, regardless. So predictable -- these builders of straw men.

Some of these poor creatures have been so deluded that they believe that this unconstitutional law is going to solve the issue. Naiveté at its apex.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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A little more than a year ago, the Township Committee in this faded factory town became the first municipality in New Jersey to enact legislation penalizing anyone who employed or rented to an illegal immigrant.

Angelina Guedes has owned a hair and nail salon in Riverside, N.J., for two years. It was nearly empty on a recent afternoon.
Within months, hundreds, if not thousands, of recent immigrants from Brazil and other Latin American countries had fled. The noise, crowding and traffic that had accompanied their arrival over the past decade abated.

So last week, the town rescinded the ordinance, joining a small but growing list of municipalities nationwide that have begun rethinking such laws as their legal and economic consequences have become clearer.

“I don’t think people knew there would be such an economic burden,†said Mayor George Conard, who voted for the original ordinance. “A lot of people did not look three years out.â€



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/ny...side.html?_r=1
So this town has found out it has an addiction to illegal aliens. Just like any addiction the solution isn't to give up but to try a different approach to kicking the habit. Why not pass a law that removes some of the economic damage that illegals do on the community? For example, make sure that proof of legal residency is required before allowing a student to be enrolled in school. Do the same thing for all other services. Those businesses are paying for all of those illegal aliens indirectly. Maybe if they weren't then they could survive a little better without their business.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Show me one post, where someone says we should just let anyone into the country, and do nothing about it.
What? We HAVE let millions into the country...and do nothing about it.

Those who think this new law in Arizona is unconstitutional/unfair/racist/whatever, seem to have no problem ignoring the LAW when it comes to illegals.

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Some of these poor creatures have been so deluded that they believe that this unconstitutional law is going to solve the issue. Naiveté at its apex.
Hilarious! The irony is dripping from this one.

A law is unconstitutional in your opinion because it requires those that might be here illegally to actually PROVE they have a right to be here.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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So say you. Which of course doesn't mean much.
SF Remains A Safe Haven For Illegal Immigrants - cbs5.com (http://cbs5.com/local/sanctuary.policy.San.2.444884.html - broken link)
SAN FRANCISCO (BCN) ― The San Francisco Board of Supervisors Tuesday unanimously approved a resolution calling upon Mayor Gavin Newsom to affirm the city's sanctuary policy, which rejects the use of city funds to refer undocumented immigrants to immigration authorities.

The resolution, which was sponsored by Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval, also asks the mayor to reject any federal funds that require the city to retract its support for undocumented immigrants.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:21 PM
 
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M-13, the Aryan Brotherhood, the Italian Mafia, or the damned hell angels, you can change the racial make up, but where an illegal dollar can be found, someone will step in to fill the void.
What a poor defense.Illegal Alien criminals can be easily removed and deported as they have NO right to be here and NO real defense against deportation,once they're gone problem eliminated .Let their own Countries deal with them.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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What? We HAVE let millions into the country...and do nothing about it.

Those who think this new law in Arizona is unconstitutional/unfair/racist/whatever, seem to have no problem ignoring the LAW when it comes to illegals.



Hilarious! The irony is dripping from this one.

A law is unconstitutional in your opinion because it requires those that might be here illegally to actually PROVE they have a right to be here.
I still haven't read anyone, who is advocating for illegal immigration.

I do think the new law is unconstitutional, but I don't agree with illegal immigration. I feel that we should do things, within the law, to end it. Such as, securing our borders with military. Perhaps a national ID card. Quit supplying illegal immigrants with social services. Send to jail, for a period no less than 1 year, anyone who hires an illegal immigrant.

But, randomly stopping people, because they look like they are illegal, is blatantly against the 4th amendment, and as soon as it goes before a Federal court, the law will be repealed.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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A law is unconstitutional in your opinion because it requires those that might be here illegally to actually PROVE they have a right to be here.
Wrong.

This law in particular is unconstitutional because it is in direct opposition to the tenets of the Fourth Amendment, which deals with the right of individuals to be free from illegal (that word again) search and seizure. This means there must be just cause and due process, not simply "Driving While Brown Where An Arizona Jackboot Can See You".

You would do well to read your Constitution before you try to water down the thread and fill it with straw men. Such posts make you look uninformed.
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