[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by bale002

There are so many variables, and only a simple arrogant idiot like a human could reduce them to one focusing on himself.

Ding, ding, ding. I have said before, when you can build a fully populated fully functioning earth, get back to me about how much we can actually cause or prevent climate change.

[Shredder907]

From what I understand the only parts of Florida that really have to worry about sea levels rising is the coastal and low land areas.
Even in flat south Florida most of the towns and communities west of 95 are 20 to 30 feet above sea level.
Compared people like me who live in Orlando where it’s 80 to 100 feet above sea level.
Or people who live in hilly places like Tallahassee, Clermont, Brooksville, Lake Wales, where they are over 300 feet above sea level.
Most of Florida should be fine for the next 100 years.
Not saying this isn’t something we should be worried about especially for those who live on the coastal cities and towns.
But we definitely have time to figure out how to combat the rising sea levels.

[JMatl]

Originally Posted by Charlie Allnut

I would not call it "right wing", but rather a collective of opinions that are more conservative than yours and actually more of a "common sense Florida realism".

The bolded is priceless!

I'm stealing it, and selling it to the DeSantis campaign.

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by Shredder907

From what I understand the only parts of Florida that really have to worry about sea levels rising is the coastal and low land areas.
Even in flat south Florida most of the towns and communities west of 95 are 20 to 30 feet above sea level.
Compared people like me who live in Orlando where it’s 80 to 100 feet above sea level.
Or people who live in hilly places like Tallahassee, Clermont, Brooksville, Lake Wales, where they are over 300 feet above sea level.
Most of Florida should be fine for the next 100 years.
Not saying this isn’t something we should be worried about especially for those who live on the coastal cities and towns.
But we definitely have time to figure out how to combat the rising sea levels.

Yep, I have family living in New Smyrna Beach. The coastal part of the city is about 7' high, but where one lives it is over 26' and the other probably 1/2 that.

Sea Rise not a big issue, just a shorter drive to the beach.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

If you like girls that look like they're still ten years old??

Looks like around 20 and always mad.

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by LKJ1988

No expert for sure but hot.

Originally Posted by LKJ1988

Looks like around 20 and always mad.

You're being... serious........

[WRnative]

While climate change denialism and anti-science deceit/ignorance run amok in this forum, here's just one of the empirical realities the smart money who listens to scientists will focus on in the immediate years ahead.

<<Scientists have discovered a series of worrying weaknesses in the ice shelf holding back one of Antarctica’s most dangerous glaciers, suggesting that this important buttress against sea level rise could shatter within the next three to five years....

Satellite images taken as recently as last month and presented Monday at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union show several large, diagonal cracks extending across the floating ice wedge....

But when the shelf fails, the eastern third of Thwaites Glacier will triple in speed, spitting formerly landlocked ice into the sea. Total collapse of Thwaites could result in several feet of sea level rise, scientists say, endangering millions of people in coastal areas.>>

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...?ocid=msedgntp

Reading the above article, it sounds as if field work of the International Thwaites Glacier Collaboration (ITGC), which studies what has been called the "Doomsday Glacier," is about to resume after a suspension in 2020 due to the COVID epidemic.

<<In 2020, scientists discovered warm water underneath the glacier for the first time.[11] The place where the glacier was in contact with the sea had been recorded as 2 degree Celsius above the freezing temperature.[12] The discovery was a part of the International Thwaites Glacier Collaboration, a partnership primarily between US and UK academic institutions. This study has raised alarm regarding the glacier collapse, which can lead to nearly 3 ft (0.9 m) rise in the sea level.[13]>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thwaites_Glacier

<<FOR SEVERAL YEARS, scientists have been worried about the retreat and eventual collapse of Thwaites Glacier, a Florida-sized plug that holds back the West Antarctic ice sheet from the Southern Ocean. If Thwaites goes kaput, the resulting catastrophe could raise global sea levels by more than two feet on its own, or by eight feet in combination with melting from nearby glaciers, according to NASA estimates.

https://www.wired.com/story/antarcti...d-below-water/

At some point likely in the next decade, scientists likely will produce empirically informed models projecting how much Thwaites and other Antarctic glaciers will contribute to annual sea level rise in the decades ahead.

Even a half-foot of sea level rise will prove disastrous to many coastal communities, including those in Florida, given considerations such as high tides, sunny day flooding, and rising water tables, let alone higher storm surges.

<<If seas rise 20 feet over the next 2,000 years, our children and their descendants may find ways to adapt. But if seas rise 20 feet or more over the next 100 to 200 years — which is our current trajectory – the outlook is grim. In that scenario, there could be two feet of sea level rise by 2040, three feet by 2050, and much more to come.

Two to three feet of sea level rise may not sound like much, but it will transform human societies the world over. In south Florida, where I live, residents will lose access to fresh water. Sewage treatment plants will fail, large areas will persistently flood, and Miami Beach and other barrier islands will be largely abandoned.>>

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...harold-wanless

If Wanless, former Chair of Geological Sciences at the Univ. of Miami and one of Florida's leading experts on sea level rise, is correct, it's possible annual sea level rise in southern Florida will reach one inch annually sometime in this decade.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/po...arold-wanless/

This possibility is confirmed by the Southeast Florida Climate Compact projection table in this article that shows up to 14 inches of sea level rise by 2030.

https://www.wlrn.org/environment/201...her-and-faster

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sunday/a-ch...less-1.4281342

[Charlie Allnut]

13 years ago, Global Scientist Al Gore told us that the North Pole Ice Cap would be completly free of ice in 5 years.

Well....I'n having second thoughts about that vacant land I bought inland (West of Jupiter) in order to open up a new beach resort.
Might have to revert it back to the cow pasture.

[WRnative]

Do this forum's climate change denying knuckleheads even understand that ice melts increasingly rapidly as temperatures rise above freezing? Oh, yeah, when the ice melts, it doesn't sink into the earth, as one poster in this thread seemingly might suggest, but ends up in the oceans resulting in sea level rise.

<<The sweltering heat -- equivalent to 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit -- was seen on June 20, 2020 in the Russian town of Verkhoyansk, marking the highest temperature ever recorded above the Arctic Circle, the World Meteorological Organization said.

The average temperatures across Arctic Siberia reached up to 10C above normal for much of the summer last year, the WMO said, adding that this had fueled fires and massive sea-ice loss.

The heatwave also played a significant role in 2020 being designated one of the three warmest years on record globally.

Last year also saw a record high of 18.3C [65F] for the Antarctic continent, Taalas said.>>

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...?ocid=msedgntp

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by WRnative

<<The sweltering heat -- equivalent to 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit -- was seen on June 20, 2020 in the Russian town of Verkhoyansk, marking the highest temperature ever recorded above the Arctic Circle, the World Meteorological Organization said.

An early and unexpected freeze has trapped at least 18 cargo ships in the Arctic Sea off the coast of Russia.

Ice up to 30cm thick has formed across most of the Laptev Sea and East Siberian seas, according to the Barents Sea Observer, a Norwegian news site.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1962883.html

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Dozens of ships have gotten stuck in the sea ice of the Russian Arctic due to an earlier-than-expected freeze over the past week, media outlets have reported.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/...reports-a75624

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Two icebreakers are on the way to rescue ice-locked ships on Northern Sea Route
But some of the vessels will have to wait for at least one week before they are released from captivity in the remote Arctic sea-ice.

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/ar...hern-sea-route