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Old 03-06-2022, 01:37 AM
 
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The following op-ed piece originally published by the Gainesville Sun contains an easy link to NOAA's (National Oceanic and Administrative Administration) Sea Level Rise Viewer.


https://www.theinvadingsea.com/2022/...rise-forecast/


This viewer is a little clunky, but click on "Local Scenarios" in the left margin for a useful tutorial.


For St. Petersburg in the year 2040, the intermediate high scenario indicates a projected sea level rise of .29 meters, or 11 inches. The 2040 range is from .25 meters using the intermediate low scenario to .32 meters using the high scenario, or 10 to 13 inches.


For 2050, the range is .32 meters to .49 meters, or from 13 to 19 inches.


Some experts such as the Univ. of Miami's Harold Wanless believes these NOAA projections are much too conservative. If experts such as Wanless are correct, the inadequacy of these projections may become obvious over the remainder of this decade, imposing a harsh measure of reality and requiring an upward adjustment in the NOAA projections.


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Every section of coast has regional influences that add to or subtract from the GMSL rise. For South Florida, our future “total relative sea level” rise will include an addition of 15 to 20 percent from projected slowing of the Florida Current/Gulf Stream and 20 percent to 52 percent from redistribution of ocean mass as the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets melt.




Their huge ice masses pull water toward them. As they melt and their mass diminishes, their gravitational attraction diminishes and ocean water redistributes.




This means that South Florida should add 35 percent to 72 percent additional rise to the GMSL projections. The total relative sea-level rise for South Florida by 2046 could thus be 2.7 to 3.4 feet, and within 50 years could be 5.7 to 7.2 feet.>>


https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion...620-story.html


A foot of sea level rise will impair both the size and quality of Florida beaches and have devastating impacts on coastal nature preserves, among many other negative consequences.



The Gainesville Post op-ed piece also does a good job of summarizing the impact of other consequences of climate change, from the slowing of Gulf Stream to the devastating impact on marine life of rising ocean temperature and ocean acidification.

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Old 03-06-2022, 07:28 AM
 
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Global warming has had no effect on the rate of sea level rise in the entire state of Florida...for over 100 years

....there has been no acceleration in the rate of sea level rise...it's less than 1 foot every 100 years..and is consistent around the entire state

Here's a tour of tide gauges around the entire state...........

Fernandina Beach > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8720030

Mayport, Florida > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8720218

Virginia Key > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8723214

Key West > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8724580

Naples, Florida > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8725110

St. Petersburg > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8726520

Cedar Key > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8727520

Pensacola, Florida > https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8729840
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Old 03-06-2022, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Darn, I was hoping Dr. Hairy Winless was right, & my home 8 miles inland would wind up Gulf-front property , but Corrie22 and all those ocean level readings ruined my hopes.

Then, I found this article saying Winless is a quack:

https://www.news-press.com/story/opi...ruse/28899451/

I wondered why Thousands of wealthy smart; politicians, scientists, doctors, professors, university presidents, movie actors, rock stars, business owners, tech moguls, sports celebrities, all own multi-million dollar waterfront homes? They don't seem to be worried one bit about sea levels.

I also read here that Red Tide & Hurricanes would hurt our property values, & drive down tourism Geez, Florida had a record high 118,000,000 visitors in 2021, & home values have never been higher here:

https://www.flgov.com/2022/02/15/flo...ndemic-levels/

https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/hom...-november-2021

So much for the predictions & warnings you read about here ad nauseum. They make Chicken Little look like Nostradameus.
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Old 03-06-2022, 01:02 PM
 
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We will all be dead soon anyways. Plus with 4 years of the sun being blocked out will slow down rise.
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Old 03-06-2022, 01:04 PM
 
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Darn, I was hoping Dr. Hairy Winless was right, & my home 8 miles inland would wind up Gulf-front property , but Corrie22 and all those ocean level readings ruined my hopes.

Then, I found this article saying Winless is a quack:

https://www.news-press.com/story/opi...ruse/28899451/

I wondered why Thousands of wealthy smart; politicians, scientists, doctors, professors, university presidents, movie actors, rock stars, business owners, tech moguls, sports celebrities, all own multi-million dollar waterfront homes? They don't seem to be worried one bit about sea levels.

I also read here that Red Tide & Hurricanes would hurt our property values, & drive down tourism Geez, Florida had a record high 118,000,000 visitors in 2021, & home values have never been higher here:

https://www.flgov.com/2022/02/15/flo...ndemic-levels/

https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/hom...-november-2021

So much for the predictions & warnings you read about here ad nauseum. They make Chicken Little look like Nostradameus.
We have had no real canes in years other than the pan handle randle. Lived here all my life and never one cane jane since i was born in 1963 where i have lived. Red tide was the worst ever for Tampa bay ray last summer.
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Old 03-06-2022, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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We have had no real canes in years other than the pan handle randle. Lived here all my life and never one cane jane since i was born in 1963 where i have lived. Red tide was the worst ever for Tampa bay ray last summer.
yeah, Andrew was just a bad thunderstorm Norm.
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Old 03-07-2022, 04:42 AM
 
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yeah, Andrew was just a bad thunderstorm Norm.
Not even that for me in Tampa and i was very upset we got no weather from it. I would have at least liked it to track 100 miles closer so i could have got some rain. Same for Charlie since it was a very small storm with the core winds only 20 miles from the center. I was so upset we got no rain from it as well or any wind in Tampa. Miss after miss all these years.
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:42 AM
 
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I wondered why Thousands of wealthy smart; politicians, scientists, doctors, professors, university presidents, movie actors, rock stars, business owners, tech moguls, sports celebrities, all own multi-million dollar waterfront homes? They don't seem to be worried one bit about sea levels.

They don't have to be worried about it, in the short term. If their McMansion floods to inhabitability, they just shrug and go somewhere else and buy another. Most regular folks are not in that position.
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:45 AM
 
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They don't have to be worried about it, in the short term. If their McMansion floods to inhabitability, they just shrug and go somewhere else and buy another. Most regular folks are not in that position.
..they are not going to live long enough

and neither will their children...grand children....great grand children.....>>>>on and on
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Old 03-09-2022, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not even that for me in Tampa and i was very upset we got no weather from it. I would have at least liked it to track 100 miles closer so i could have got some rain. Same for Charlie since it was a very small storm with the core winds only 20 miles from the center. I was so upset we got no rain from it as well or any wind in Tampa. Miss after miss all these years.
You should work the hurricane crisis line for storm victims.
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