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Old 11-06-2012, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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To add to all the above, they put half of it in spanish which increases the page amount.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Beach
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My Ballot in Tampa was 3 pages, double sided. It's because the Amendments are typed in their entirety and in their legal language... in 2 languages. I saw many voters today reading the entire ballot... probably trying to make sense of the amendments. I went through the amendments a couple days ago and made a cheat sheet. I used a couple sites that spelled out what you were voting for and what a yes or no vote meant. Unfortunately I think too many people think they are voting one way, but in reality, because of the wording, they are voting another.

They should institute plain language amendment language so the majority of the population can understand what they are reading. Because let's face it... most of the population cannot understand the language on these ballots or people to stay focused once they get past the second sentence.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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Left my house, drove to the polling site, voted drove home, all of about 12 minutes. Granted I only live about 2-3 minutes from the site but I was in and out, long ballot and all. 2 pages front and back.
I also researched everything before and had my page printed out before I went so all I had to do was fill in the circles.
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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My Ballot in Tampa was 3 pages, double sided. It's because the Amendments are typed in their entirety and in their legal language... in 2 languages. I saw many voters today reading the entire ballot... probably trying to make sense of the amendments. I went through the amendments a couple days ago and made a cheat sheet. I used a couple sites that spelled out what you were voting for and what a yes or no vote meant. Unfortunately I think too many people think they are voting one way, but in reality, because of the wording, they are voting another.

They should institute plain language amendment language so the majority of the population can understand what they are reading. Because let's face it... most of the population cannot understand the language on these ballots or people to stay focused once they get past the second sentence.
My ballot was also 3 pages, front & back. English & Spanish.

I believe that people should do a bit more research and have a cheat as well. Nearly impossible to read and truly understand at the polls... No excuses really...
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Miami
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I agree, people should of done their research ahead of time, came in with a piece of paper how they were going to vote, instead of reading everything right there. Mine was 5 pages back and front, in three languages. Took me 10 minutes from the time I left my car till I got back in my car. Had a great voting experience today.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Why do we have a 10 page ballot??

Because our legislators are a bunch of ******* who do not want to do their ****ing job and pass laws...

Instead they "pass the buck" and leave it to the voters. Most of which are a bunch of old, conservative bigots and racists with one foot in the grave who care nothing about themselves and keeping their taxes low so they can live a couple more years
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:13 PM
 
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It took me 5 1/2 hours to vote. I got there at 6:30 am. I wanted to kill myself. Almost 6 hours!!!!

The problem is not the ballots it's the corrupt Florida government not assigning enough polling places in the more democratic districs.

I live in Southern Miami but not in the republican area Doggiebus lives.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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Why do we have a 10 page ballot??

Because our legislators are a bunch of ******* who do not want to do their ****ing job and pass laws...

Instead they "pass the buck" and leave it to the voters. Most of which are a bunch of old, conservative bigots and racists with one foot in the grave who care nothing about themselves and keeping their taxes low so they can live a couple more years
That ballot was full of crap. You are right, the state is broke and most ammendments were about collecting less taxes. Most of the issues seemed to be drafted by crazy conservatives. I was disgusted. Crap about abortion, giving money to religious nuts all other nonsense.

Like really Florida?
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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It took me 5 1/2 hours to vote. I got there at 6:30 am. I wanted to kill myself. Almost 6 hours!!!!

The problem is not the ballots it's the corrupt Florida government not assigning enough polling places in the more democratic districs.

I live in Southern Miami but not in the republican area Doggiebus lives.
Here's your local Supervisor of Elections who takes care of election things where you live:

County has first Black supervisor of elections | The Miami Times

Perhaps she is a Republican - but I kind of doubt it. Robyn
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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Why do we have a 10 page ballot??

Because our legislators are a bunch of ******* who do not want to do their ****ing job and pass laws...

Instead they "pass the buck" and leave it to the voters. Most of which are a bunch of old, conservative bigots and racists with one foot in the grave who care nothing about themselves and keeping their taxes low so they can live a couple more years
You have a 10 page ballot because the federal government says that you must have the ballot printed in English and Spanish (and - in some parts of Florida - Creole).

And exactly which voters are you talking about? I've lived in Florida for 40+ years - and the crabbiest most thumbs down when it comes to taxes voters IMO are the blue haired blue voters down in south Florida (gosh - I paid taxes in New Yawk - or O-HI-O - why should I pay taxes here for things like schools?). Robyn
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