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Old 10-17-2008, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Well...his real name is Sam and he is not a plumber...Sam the faux plumber who makes 40,000.00/year. He is nowhere close to buying a business and I read somewhere he was a felon of some kind...

Another McSame failed gimmick.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Maybe this will clear up the issue:

The Rise and Fall of Joe - Political Machine

From the article:

"He [Joe the Plumber] doesn't have a plumbing license required by the city of Toledo to practice, according to a staffer with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection. Wurzelbacher, who now works for Newell Plumbing & Heating Co., said the owner, Al Newel, has a plumbing license and that "because he works for someone else, he doesn't need a license."

But even that's not true, according to the Toledo Division of Building Inspection. Wurzelbacher can't legally do plumbing work without a license, regardless of his boss's certification.

A staff person with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection told On Call this afternoon that her division will contact Wuzelbacher to notify him that he can't work without a license..."
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:52 AM
 
Location: At my computador
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Well...his real name is Sam and he is not a plumber...Sam the faux plumber who makes 40,000.00/year. He is nowhere close to buying a business and I read somewhere he was a felon of some kind...

Another McSame failed gimmick.
How come you're not claiming Boone Pickens is using a fake name? Would you be more accommodating if he introduced himself in the typical middle-class fashion as "S. Joe Zur...?"

What does his income have to do with the structure of a private business sale?

I heard you had chlamydia. So what?
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yet one more con job by today's Republican party.
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Another McSame failed gimmick.
How is this a con job? A gimmick? Was Obama in on the gimmick? Obama swooped into Joe's neighborhood for a photo-op, picked Joe out of a rope line. Joe asked a "what if" question, a perfectly legitimate one, and Obama blew the answer big time.

He exposed his true socialist ideology for the nation. It is irrelevant who Joe is or what he has done.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The issue isn't whether he can or can't make it happen. The issue isn't whether you or I approve or disapprove of what he's doing and how he's doing it. The issue is whether or notObama's belief will penalize Joe for assuming the risk and hardship in attaining his dream to the point that the dream is no longer worth chasing.

Hope is the heart of freedom. When Barack crushes hope for people who are willing to throw themselves against the status quo because he wants incompetent people rewarded, freedom means little.
If he can't make it happen, then his initial question to Barack--as well as he himself--are moot.

This joker said he planned on buying a plumbing business that was going to make more than $250K. And for him to do that, he's got to be in the appropriate financial condition to do that. He ain't; never was; and never will be. He's gonna get a tax cut just like the rest of us.

"Joe" is just another Republican coward who'd rather cut off his own economic nose to spite his middle class face.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:03 PM
 
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Maybe this will clear up the issue:

The Rise and Fall of Joe - Political Machine

From the article:

"He [Joe the Plumber] doesn't have a plumbing license required by the city of Toledo to practice, according to a staffer with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection. Wurzelbacher, who now works for Newell Plumbing & Heating Co., said the owner, Al Newel, has a plumbing license and that "because he works for someone else, he doesn't need a license."

But even that's not true, according to the Toledo Division of Building Inspection. Wurzelbacher can't legally do plumbing work without a license, regardless of his boss's certification.

A staff person with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection told On Call this afternoon that her division will contact Wuzelbacher to notify him that he can't work without a license..."

Instead of spouting of talking points because you have no clue try showing us some laws.....It's already been proven the media is destroying "Joe" because he asked Obama a question and Obama decided to answer. So run along and go find some credible sources like code enforcement then maybe you can gain a little respect otherwise you are just a repeat of all the other lies being thrown out.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:05 PM
 
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If he can't make it happen, then his initial question to Barack--as well as he himself--are moot.

This joker said he planned on buying a plumbing business that was going to make more than $250K. And for him to do that, he's got to be in the appropriate financial condition to do that. He ain't; never was; and never will be. He's gonna get a tax cut just like the rest of us.

"Joe" is just another Republican coward who'd rather cut off his own economic nose to spite his middle class face.
So now you judge an entire mans life on what? the hour or so worth of it you know of?

Who said "Joe's" grandmother did not pass and leave him millions? You people are such a joke sometimes. Instead of talking gossip come back with some facts.....and facts are not MSNBCX factcheck. They would be laws and regulations regarding city, county and state requirments.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:05 PM
 
Location: At my computador
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If he can't make it happen, then his initial question to Barack--as well as he himself--are moot.

This joker said he planned on buying a plumbing business that was going to make more than $250K. And for him to do that, he's got to be in the appropriate financial condition to do that. He ain't; never was; and never will be. He's gonna get a tax cut just like the rest of us.

"Joe" is just another Republican coward who'd rather cut off his own economic nose to spite his middle class face.
You see, yours is the oppressive tendency of all leftists. Because you can't see the potential, you'll crush the hope in all others for your personal gain.

That's what this is about. It's not whether Joe can or can't. It's about whether Joe has the opportunity or sees the reward to try. That's what America is: A place of opportunity and reward.

When you take that away, you do two things. First, as I've implied, you take away the American Dream. Second, you impose your values on others which starts a war of sorts. They then try to impose their values on you. The result of this is that we're all forced to live according to the rules laid out by the latest winner.

That's not freedom. If you want freedom, you have to give freedom.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:07 PM
 
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Well...his real name is Sam and he is not a plumber...Sam the faux plumber who makes 40,000.00/year. He is nowhere close to buying a business and I read somewhere he was a felon of some kind...

Another McSame failed gimmick.

Ahhh I read somewhere that my cousin said and mother's uncle verified.

You ever been called a drama queen by chance?

Again come back with facts or don't come back. You guys are determined to destroy someone you have never met or even heard of until yesterday......Why.....

Because he asked a question to your demigod.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:11 PM
 
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78 pages.....good lord. Anyways, here is what Joe is complaining about and how may people this will really effect if taxes are bumped:

Checking facts: Will Obama raise small biz taxes? - Oct. 16, 2008

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McCain has entrepreneurs spooked about tax hikes, but fewer than 2% of small business owners would pay more under Obama's plan.
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