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Old 10-17-2008, 08:55 PM
 
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wow...you really need to read his tax plan...

It is a 3% marginal tax difference on anything above $250,000.00 per year... He will only pay higher taxes on the marginal income above $250,000... So if he makes $300,000 per year...he will pay an additional 3% on that $50,000.. He still gets the tax break on the first $250,000.

You sure get snotty for not knowing how the plan works...
Here you have it just in case you want to know the facts:

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A worker making $200,000 a year would pay no additional payroll taxes under Obama's plan. But anyone making $250,000 a year or more would pay 6.2 percent in payroll taxes on their entire income
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:11 PM
 
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wow...you really need to read his tax plan...

It is a 3% marginal tax difference on anything above $250,000.00 per year... He will only pay higher taxes on the marginal income above $250,000... So if he makes $300,000 per year...he will pay an additional 3% on that $50,000.. He still gets the tax break on the first $250,000.

You sure get snotty for not knowing how the plan works...
.......

It wold push you out of that bracket to the next. that is how taxes work.....
Where anywhere on these graphs doe it say yes but over this amount you are only taxes this?

Some families with an income of $40,000 could lose up to 40 cents in vanishing credits for every additional dollar earned from working overtime or taking a new job.
As public policy, this is contradictory. The tax credits are sold in the name of "making work pay," but in practice they can be a disincentive to working harder, especially if you're a lower-income couple getting raises of $1,000 or $2,000 a year. One mystery -- among many -- of the McCain campaign is why it has allowed Mr. Obama's 95% illusion to go unanswered.

Obama's 95% Illusion - WSJ.com

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Old 10-17-2008, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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.......

It wold push you out of that bracket to the next. that is how taxes work.....
Where anywhere on these graphs doe it say yes but over this amount you are only taxes this?

Some families with an income of $40,000 could lose up to 40 cents in vanishing credits for every additional dollar earned from working overtime or taking a new job.
As public policy, this is contradictory. The tax credits are sold in the name of "making work pay," but in practice they can be a disincentive to working harder, especially if you're a lower-income couple getting raises of $1,000 or $2,000 a year. One mystery -- among many -- of the McCain campaign is why it has allowed Mr. Obama's 95% illusion to go unanswered.

Obama's 95% Illusion - WSJ.com
How income taxes work in USA

Income tax in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"An individual pays tax at a given bracket only for each dollar within that bracket's range."

Example...
For example, a single taxpayer who earned $10,000 in 2007 would be taxed 10% of each dollar earned from the 1st dollar to the 7,825th dollar (10% × $7,825 = $782.50), then 15% of each dollar earned from the 7,826th dollar to the 10,000th dollar (15% × $2,175 = $326.25), for a total of $1,108.75. Notice this amount ($1,108.75) is lower than if the individual had been taxed at 15% on the full $10,000 (for a tax of $1,500). It is a combination of 'brackets' if you crossover into the next....


Do you really think if I made $250,001 that would throw the enitre amount into a different tax bracket all together...and I would get that entire amount taxed at the higher brackets rate? Is that what you are really saying??? The $250,000 would be in one bracket and taxed accordingly and the $1.00 would go into the next.


I guess you really need to understand the fundamentals of income taxes before you can relate...
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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How income taxes work in USA

Income tax in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"An individual pays tax at a given bracket only for each dollar within that bracket's range."

Example...
For example, a single taxpayer who earned $10,000 in 2007 would be taxed 10% of each dollar earned from the 1st dollar to the 7,825th dollar (10% × $7,825 = $782.50), then 15% of each dollar earned from the 7,826th dollar to the 10,000th dollar (15% × $2,175 = $326.25), for a total of $1,108.75. Notice this amount ($1,108.75) is lower than if the individual had been taxed at 15% on the full $10,000 (for a tax of $1,500). It is a combination of 'brackets' if you crossover into the next....


Do you really think if I made $250,001 that would throw the enitre amount into a different tax bracket all together...and I would get that entire amount taxed at the higher brackets rate? Is that what you are really saying??? The $250,000 would be in one bracket and taxed accordingly and the $1.00 would go into the next.


I guess you really need to understand the fundamentals of income taxes before you can relate...
You're assuming that Obama and the tax avoider Charlie Rangel aren't going to try and rewrite the tax code.

Any time to change a tax plan, you have to rewrite the tax code.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:34 PM
 
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Again please read his tax plan before u start talking about current taxes. I quoted the tax and u still haven't read it.
Ignorance is bliss
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Originally Posted by *Danielle* View Post
How income taxes work in USA

Income tax in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"An individual pays tax at a given bracket only for each dollar within that bracket's range."

Example...
For example, a single taxpayer who earned $10,000 in 2007 would be taxed 10% of each dollar earned from the 1st dollar to the 7,825th dollar (10% × $7,825 = $782.50), then 15% of each dollar earned from the 7,826th dollar to the 10,000th dollar (15% × $2,175 = $326.25), for a total of $1,108.75. Notice this amount ($1,108.75) is lower than if the individual had been taxed at 15% on the full $10,000 (for a tax of $1,500). It is a combination of 'brackets' if you crossover into the next....


Do you really think if I made $250,001 that would throw the enitre amount into a different tax bracket all together...and I would get that entire amount taxed at the higher brackets rate? Is that what you are really saying??? The $250,000 would be in one bracket and taxed accordingly and the $1.00 would go into the next.


I guess you really need to understand the fundamentals of income taxes before you can relate...
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:07 AM
 
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Any tax increase on any business gets passed on down the line. If that business provides goods for other businesses then that "extra" cost get's passed down the line. Eventually the people who get stuck are the consumers of those goods. Don't believe me? Check out the tax rates on businesses in the developing nations. We grew huge with the "trickle down" economics now we are reverting back while every other nation is following our "trickle down" theory that Reagan introduced. Want to guess what happens to those nations and what's going to happen to our? You thought jobs left quick before....


When the price of barrels of oil went up did the oil giants "absorb" the cost....no need to answer everyone knows it already.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Any tax increase on any business gets passed on down the line. If that business provides goods for other businesses then that "extra" cost get's passed down the line. Eventually the people who get stuck are the consumers of those goods. Don't believe me? Check out the tax rates on businesses in the developing nations. We grew huge with the "trickle down" economics now we are reverting back while every other nation is following our "trickle down" theory that Reagan introduced. Want to guess what happens to those nations and what's going to happen to our? You thought jobs left quick before....
Exactly! People just don't get that companies are NOT TAX PAYERS, they are tax collectors. If anyone thinks that passing a tax on those "evil" companies will not be passed on to the consumer you are living in a delusional world and need to wake up.
The minute B.O. were to pass any of these taxes the companies will adjust what they charge and then YOU will pay the higher cost and then scream how "everythings going up" those evil companies are shafting us....
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:23 AM
 
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For example:

Who has had to call a service company such as a plumber, HVAC specialist, electrician...etc? When you got the bill it had a arrival fee or travel fee on it I would almost guarantee. It may have been $15 or more. Now if those companies are feeling the need to charge you for an arrival fee what will that company feel the need to do when gas prices increase?

Remember most service companies use trucks that barely get 20 miles per gallon on the highway.
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Old 10-18-2008, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Who cares about Joe the plumber, who isn't even a plumber? Who owes back taxes, just wants to not pay his taxes. Who would be better off under Obama's plan unless he makes $250,000.!! He just does not get it!
Just another McCain gimmick! Joe can blame him for the mess he is in now!
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