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View Poll Results: Does the DNC actively working against Sanders bother you?
Yes 115 74.68%
No 39 25.32%
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:07 PM
 
Location: North America
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Hecate...you really are clueless. I have never declared myself to be a right winger and in fact am not. I am a gay man who uses his brain to decide what to think instead of being brainwashed by the agenda-driven media and I have many friends like myself. We may not all share the exact same beliefs, but we enjoying learning from each other. Not all of us live in the type of bubble that you find so comfortable for yourself. Just because you are resistant to learning from others doesn't mean the rest of us follow suit.
Yes, because you being gay means you could never support right wing causes. I'm still trying to figure out how you being gay has anything to do with this conversation.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yes, because you being gay means you could never support right wing causes. I'm still trying to figure out how you being gay has anything to do with this conversation.
Right. Let's get back to discussing the merits of a corrupt government where the party chooses the winner. You were explaining ...
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Yes, because you being gay means you could never support right wing causes. I'm still trying to figure out how you being gay has anything to do with this conversation.
How's this then...don't converse with me. You don't know me so you're looking quite foolish in your attempt to "catch me". Go play with a ball of string.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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If you can't make it in this country then its your own fault. There is more opportunity in American than in a lot of our allies. The job is to help people get there but not do the job for people.
wow. Inequality is at its highest level in more than a 100 years, social mobility is at its lowest level in decades and far lower than lots of countries, thousands upon thousands die of easily treatable diseases because the country doesnt care about providing health care to its citizens, thousands are locked up in for-profit prison systems run by corporations that lobby politicians for harsher sentencing to get more customers/prisoners, people who are born severely disabled and cant work live on $600 a month, the school system is funded by property taxes to ensure that the well-to-do can give their children the best education and children from poor backgrounds have to attend the worst funded schools in the country. And you blame the people not the super rich who rig the economy through a corrupt system of campaign finance. They are laughing at you.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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How's this then...don't converse with me. You don't know me so you're looking quite foolish in your attempt to "catch me". Go play with a ball of string.
I enjoy conversing with people who are corrupting our society. Especially on forums. Maybe you too will grow to welcome their views about dictatorships, totalitarian elections, and how they may thrive in the U.S.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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My wife was a much more faithful Democrat than me. She is done with them now too. What did it for her was Hillary taking up for Bernie's free State College thing. This will ruin public universities and anyone with a brain knows that. Hillary will say anything, cover up anything, kill anyone to get what she wants. The light is coming on for a lot of Democrats.
Thats the most absurd argument I've heard. What are you? A multi-millionaire? Is that why you dont support tuition free public universities like we almost had in the 1960s? We already have free K-12 public schools in order to level the playing field, yet for college we want to make it as easy as possible for rich, lazy kids while middle class and working class folks are getting crushed and often cant send their bright and hard working children to college. They should be totally tuition free to level the playing field. May the best and brightest students get admitted, regardless of the size of the wallet of their parents! Keep shilling for the donor class though. They love it.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Thats the most absurd argument I've heard. What are you? A multi-millionaire? Is that why you dont support tuition free public universities like we almost had in the 1960s? We already have free K-12 public schools in order to level the playing field, yet for college we want to make it as easy as possible for rich, lazy kids while middle class and working class folks are getting crushed and often cant send their bright and hard working children to college. They should be totally tuition free to level the playing field. May the best and brightest students get admitted, regardless of the size of the wallet of their parents! Keep shilling for the donor class though. They love it.
There is no reason that higher education can't be free especially if it leads to a good career as it does in Germany's academic and trade schools.

The problem in the U.S. is Obama's student loan programs have done nothing except put students in a lifetime of debt while enriching private universities. Meanwhile he's created millions of new jobs for graduates pushing Chinese made goods in warehouses located in the desert for minium wage and long hours. Really sad.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Thats the most absurd argument I've heard. What are you? A multi-millionaire? Is that why you dont support tuition free public universities like we almost had in the 1960s? We already have free K-12 public schools in order to level the playing field, yet for college we want to make it as easy as possible for rich, lazy kids while middle class and working class folks are getting crushed and often cant send their bright and hard working children to college. They should be totally tuition free to level the playing field. May the best and brightest students get admitted, regardless of the size of the wallet of their parents! Keep shilling for the donor class though. They love it.
I'm confused by your statements. How are middle class and working class folks being left out when it comes to being eligible for grants or student loans to pay for school? Maybe families with higher incomes (and rich, lazy kids) won't qualify for a Pell Grant, but all should be eligible for student loans.
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Old 07-23-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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I'm confused by your statements. How are middle class and working class folks being left out when it comes to being eligible for grants or student loans to pay for school? Maybe families with higher incomes (and rich, lazy kids) won't qualify for a Pell Grant, but all should be eligible for student loans.
Because is is extremely expensive and puts middle class and working class students at a severe disadvantage compared to rich students. These loans with extreme interest rates are crushing for too many middle-income people and with room & board costs shooting up as well it becomes financially impossible for many hard working students of modest means to go to college! The rich, lazy kid dont have that problem though! He'll get admitted as his parents can pay whatever is needed. Instead of having a higher education system where the best and the brightest can go to college regardless of the income of their parents, we have a highly regressive system favoring the rich and doing a disservice to both the talented and the country as a whole. The 99% suffer and the 0.1% laugh all the way. And plenty of the members of the 99% cheer on the 0.1% while they are being laughed in the face for voting against their own interests!
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Old 07-23-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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