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Old 10-19-2011, 07:04 AM
 
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I want four more years of Obama because the Republican alternative is worse than a nightmare on Elm Street.
but you will not consider Ron Paul who offer a plan and a much different view than all the establishment, both Republican and Democrats.

Why not you just say you will vote for Democrats regardless what kid of jobs they did.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Gone
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oh please

""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate
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"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul alinski
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all you have to do is connect the dots
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its not hard to undersatnd

the progressives (aka todays liberals which took over the democratic party) have been in bed with the elite since the late 1880's..

these are the same people that created the fed, the same people that passed the income tax amendment in 1913, the same people that suppored the european socialists and the nasi's, and the fascists

progressives sole intent is to 'socialize' the united states, to either "nationalize" the entire country and its corporations (main stream socialist way), or to so over regulate the corporations (the fascist way)

progressives (aka liberals) were the ones who supported hitler, progressives are owned by the european banks

hiltler and stalin were DICTATORS much like hugo chavez....

but the NASI's were the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers’ Party) and they are very close to the MODERN liberal

the FACT is HISTORY has shown us what happens when you turn a blind eye.





simple things like 'nationalizing' corporations,,,...... nationalization of all trusts(banks),,.......,social security,,,........ eminate domain(agrarian reform)......... , removing the guns from the people,,,........ demand the end of capitalism,,,........ state(country) provided education,,,,........... blame the jews (or the modern version 'the zionists'),............ 'fairness doctrine"( censorship of talk radio),,,,.....,..... redistribution of wealth............universal health care............welfare............pro-union............COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD .........

DO THESE SOUND FAMILIAR, .......YES THE ARE THE TALKING POINTS OF THE DNC AND MOVEON.ORG, AND thinkprogress..................
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THEY ARE ALSO A LARGE PART OF HITLERS 25 POINTS


hitler came into power because germany (after ww1) was in economic depression and he was the candidate of 'hope and change',, his plans slowly moved from being helpful to dreadful,,he took true socialism, and spun it with fascism and the next thing you know he is a dictator
WOW, so may words from someone that does not understand the FACT that Nazisim is a right-wing leaning politcal ideal. And to make matters worse for ya you tried tieing the Nazis and Communists together, two polar opposites
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:30 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Bingo. You think Obama is WAY RIGHT. Thats about all we need to read to determine the worthlessness of your posting
Wow. That's pretty rude - to say another poster's opinion is worthless.

And I guess you can call me "worthless," too, because I agree with GregW. One of my disappointments with President Obama has been that he isn't "left" enough.

However, even with that disappointment, I will be voting for him again. I can't believe anyone with a lick of sense would think there is one single viable and credible candidate in that pile-up we saw at the debate last night.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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Having nothing better to do with my time, I made the mistake of tuning into the one millionth Republican debate on CNN. Not only did this debate remind me why I hate Republicans, it has reminded me why it is extremely important that I get out and re-elect Obama next year. Watching the debate I could see nothing but hate, vitriol, and animosity coming from both the candidates and the audience. I don't see how any American who is not a Republican could be impressed by this.

Republicans are just downright full of excrement. It's just always negativity coming from them: from the factory made career politician Mitt Romney, to the token comedian Herman Cain, to the fallen angel Rick Perry, to the half-obese-worn-out-past-his-time pol Newt Gingrich, to the inconsequential quaker state homohobe Rick Santorum, to the crazed beauty Michelle Bachmann, to last but not least... the perennial debate space filler Ron Paul... They all proved why America is lucky to have Barack Obama as President.

None of the Republican candidates are ready for prime time especially when matched against Obama. They have no vision for the future, nothing positive to say to the country, no real solutions for the nation's problems. All they offer are scripted sound bites and the same b.s. Republican ideas that screwed up this country in the first place. If I was becoming complacent about voting for Obama next year, this was the stimulant that I needed. The worst thing that could happen to America short of a terrorist attack is putting a Republican back into the White House.
Oh Puhleeeeeeez!!!

You were gonna vote for the Big O regardless and you know it!!

Did you forget these??


Tensions Flare Between Obama and Clinton at SC Debate - YouTube


Hillary On Obama's Copying: Change You Can Xerox - YouTube

No love was lost here either! And don't think for a moment that Hillary took that cabinet position because she likes Obama.

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Old 10-19-2011, 07:55 AM
 
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but you will not consider Ron Paul who offer a plan and a much different view than all the establishment, both Republican and Democrats.

Why not you just say you will vote for Democrats regardless what kid of jobs they did.
Other than his crackpot ideas on military spending/deployment and his salary BS, Paul is no different from the rest of the travelling circus. His ideas are no different from those being proposed by the rest and most of those are old GOP ideas that have been repeated over and over again.
So why don't YOU say you will vote Repub no matter who gets the nomination, are you any different, no you are not. I, for one, am very disappointed that the GOP could not come up with any new candidates with fresh and viable ideas, instead we get past rejects, a new neo-con and a couple of moonbats as choices that are pandering to their bosses by suggesting the same old GOP ideas: Cutting taxes for the rich and Big Business, going through the backdoor trying to overturn Roe vs Wade through "States Rights" and of-course removing regulations protecting the People and Country from greedy Big Business. Nothing new, same old BS from the GOP, same old song and dance yet you guys expect different results, the definition of insanity.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:02 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Other than his crackpot ideas on military spending/deployment and his salary BS, Paul is no different from the rest of the travelling circus. His ideas are no different from those being proposed by the rest and most of those are old GOP ideas that have been repeated over and over again.
So why don't YOU say you will vote Repub no matter who gets the nomination, are you any different, no you are not. I, for one, am very disappointed that the GOP could not come up with any new candidates with fresh and viable ideas, instead we get past rejects, a new neo-con and a couple of moonbats as choices that are pandering to their bosses by suggesting the same old GOP ideas: Cutting taxes for the rich and Big Business, going through the backdoor trying to overturn Roe vs Wade through "States Rights" and of-course removing regulations protecting the People and Country from greedy Big Business. Nothing new, same old BS from the GOP, same old song and dance yet you guys expect different results, the definition of insanity.
How are his ideas on military spending crackpot? You don't think the US has overreached itself the past several decades? Ron Paul is always speaking about the military-industrial complex. Many in the GOP support cutting tax rates and closing loopholes. Many were against the bailouts of big business. If you weren't so dense, maybe you would recognize this.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:09 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Yes, Ron Paul....the "good" doctor who thinks it's ok to let someone die in the street if they don't have insurance. Just the kind of "compassionate conservative" I would want running this country.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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speaking as an independent, to me Obama is ineffective, but "not crazy."

the Republicans, except Huntsman, come in various flavors of ideologically crazy that I don't want to deal with. I think they will be effective in enacting policies that make the financial crisis worse.




Link?

I agree with the above. I'm independent and think that the president is not as effective as he could be but he not crazy and he looks like the most sane person in the field of all candidates IMO.

The reps do look pretty nutty in their debates.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: PA
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If Paul becomes the nominee Obama is done.

Americas given the choice between Obama and Romeny, Perry, or Cain I have no idea who will win because people would have to actually believe either of them are not corporate supporting, bank bailing, wall street loving, big government spending, healthcare reforming, war supporting LAIRS!
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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People: Consider the source. The OP is clearly in a New York state of mind.
29 electoral votes.
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