Coronavirus in DFW - News & Discussion (Dallas, Richardson: salons, movie theaters)

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk

Reaching the peak only means the current level of shelter-in-place is being effective and should continue until there is a vaccine.

There is a significant cost to lives that would occur if we had to stay in quarantine for another year to 18 months.

[CDContribuitor]

Not going to happen. We will be up and running in a month's (or 1.5 months') time, while social distancing measures and race for vaccine/cure will happen in parallel.

Originally Posted by calgirlinnc

There is a significant cost to lives that would occur if we had to stay in quarantine for another year to 18 months.

[tcualum]

While we do ultimately need a vaccine, there are other things that could get the economy up and running at some level too. For example, the widespread deployment of reliable testing would help especially if it could detect who has the antibodies and is (hopefully) immune. If we do have an immune population who aren't silent spreaders then those people could move about more freely to help out those at risk and go back to work in a more traditional fashion. They could also donate plasma to help with treatment efforts. Another thing that would help is finding a better, scalable treatment protocol and hopefully finding a medicine that already exists that can help treat COVID-19 and/or help with dangerous symptoms and opportunistic infections the patients have. Yes, a safe and effective vaccine is critical but these interim options would be extremely helpful as well.

[Gree Mountain]

If the situation improves early, I think a lot of credit should go to local leaders in Dallas and surrounding counties for enacting shelter-in-place policies relatively early. Credit should also go to all of the people I see taking steps to social distance.


I don't, however, understand this false dichotomy between saving the American economy or enforcing drastic social distancing. The federal government should simply become the payer of last resort for all non-essential businesses that are closed for the duration of a mandated lockdown. Under this plan, endorsed by economist Gabriel Zucman, affected businesses will keep all employees on the payroll for the duration of the lockdown while the federal government pays all salaries and basic business expenses with debt funding. This would allow businesses and workers to weather the pandemic and make it easier for them to return to operation and return to work as soon as as it passes. Nearly every industrialized nation has taken such steps. Just today, Germany announced "limitless" loan program for its businesses.


There is no reason all of the small business and workers in non-essential sectors throughout Dallas and North Texas should have to suffer too much during this.

[RJ312]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

So sometime between May 10-15th??

That's acceptable.

[Capitalprophets]

Safe and effective vaccine. Thats like having your cake and eat it too. Just keep your immune system up to par and you'll be fine.

[biafra4life]

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

Not going to happen. We will be up and running in a month's (or 1.5 months') time, while social distancing measures and race for vaccine/cure will happen in parallel.

You think so? I obviously cant speak for anyone else, but let's say they lift it May 1st, I am most definitely NOT running to the nearest movie theater or mall the next day. For me I'm staying away from all non essential places for at least a month or two just to make sure there is no flare up of the virus once restrictions are loosened. From what I've been reading, China is already seeing some increases in cases since they lifted their restrictions. No idea on how true it is being that it's China and all.
I suspect that I wont be alone in this thought process either.

[RJ312]

Originally Posted by biafra4life

I suspect that I wont be alone in this thought process either.

You are not. I have some idea of what I'll be doing soon after shelter in place ends.

We are all going to have some degree of PTSD from this.

[Sunbather]

I don't see a month here. Somewhere 10+ weeks until things can relax to some degree (and note that is NOT back to normal). We're going to drop slower than we rose - I don't see a symmetrical drop. Just my gut.

Always open to good data proving otherwise, but nothing I have seen indicates 4-6 weeks from today.

Even if shelter in place was removed in 4-6 weeks, I definitely wouldn't be going anywhere non-essential for another 2 months at least.

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by biafra4life

You think so? I obviously cant speak for anyone else, but let's say they lift it May 1st, I am most definitely NOT running to the nearest movie theater or mall the next day. For me I'm staying away from all non essential places for at least a month or two just to make sure there is no flare up of the virus once restrictions are loosened. From what I've been reading, China is already seeing some increases in cases since they lifted their restrictions. No idea on how true it is being that it's China and all.
I suspect that I wont be alone in this thought process either.

I think there's a difference between going to large crowded venues and say, letting orthodontists and dentists get back to seeing patients.