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Old 11-16-2019, 04:24 PM
 
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I'm glad more things are locating at BullStreet, but I was hoping for more development density. I don't want suburban style development. Yuck.
Yeah the drive-thru with the Starbucks is a bit much, but at least it fronts Bull and isn't within the interior of the project.
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Old 11-17-2019, 06:34 PM
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I'm glad more things are locating at BullStreet, but I was hoping for more development density. I don't want suburban style development. Yuck.
Exactly. Starbucks with a drive thru. Ew like I like Starbucks but that drive thru thing drives me nuts. More car oriented developments. We need to look into the future. This is in the middle of Downtown. Time to stop Developing stuff around cars and more around people. No more parking minimums for developments advocate for more biking walking and Transit oriented development.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:07 AM
 
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Exactly. Starbucks with a drive thru. Ew like I like Starbucks but that drive thru thing drives me nuts. More car oriented developments. We need to look into the future. This is in the middle of Downtown. Time to stop Developing stuff around cars and more around people. No more parking minimums for developments advocate for more biking walking and Transit oriented development.
While I agree with everything you said about needing to get away from the car centric developments, I wouldn't say the Bull St. development is in the middle of Downtown, more like on the northeastern edge!
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:16 AM
 
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While I agree with everything you said about needing to get away from the car centric developments, I wouldn't say the Bull St. development is in the middle of Downtown, more like on the northeastern edge!
Yeah it's not easily walkable for a lot of people. Even getting there from Cottontown involves walking along and crossing major roads with little landscaping. The revised development strategy seems to be building along the perimeter where people are already passing- in cars. I think they need to strike a balance, much like Main Street, to get people to park and walk and eventually ween people off of cars. That said, it's not realistic to do it all immediately. This is still Columbia after all.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:30 AM
 
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Yeah it's not easily walkable for a lot of people. Even getting there from Cottontown involves walking along and crossing major roads with little landscaping. The revised development strategy seems to be building along the perimeter where people are already passing- in cars. I think they need to strike a balance, much like Main Street, to get people to park and walk and eventually ween people off of cars. That said, it's not realistic to do it all immediately. This is still Columbia after all.
I can see a lot of surface parking surrounding REI, Starbucks, etc. at least to start, then slowly maybe converting some of those larger lots to parking garages with stores on the ground level?
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Old 11-18-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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While I agree with everything you said about needing to get away from the car centric developments, I wouldn't say the Bull St. development is in the middle of Downtown, more like on the northeastern edge!
I can't imagine anyone walking to/from Downtown to Bull St. Cute for these guys to dream about a walking/biking utopia. We are a long way from it. Need to have development closer to downtown for that to happen.
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Old 11-18-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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I can't imagine anyone walking to/from Downtown to Bull St. Cute for these guys to dream about a walking/biking utopia. We are a long way from it. Need to have development closer to downtown for that to happen.
Ideally, a modern streetcar going from West Columbia crossing the river and going up Gervais to Sumter then north on Sumter to Calhourn then into the Bull St. Complex could really tie the downtown and downtown's outer edges together.
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Old 11-18-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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Ideally, a modern streetcar going from West Columbia crossing the river and going up Gervais to Sumter then north on Sumter to Calhourn then into the Bull St. Complex could really tie the downtown and downtown's outer edges together.


Sure.. if Little Rock, ARK can have one why cant we.....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Streetcar
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Old 11-18-2019, 03:30 PM
 
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Sure.. if Little Rock, ARK can have one why cant we.....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Streetcar

I feel your pain!
Unfortunately 80% of their funding was federal taxpayer dollars almost 20 years ago. The current political climate in Washington DC isn’t exactly favorable toward these projects.
Also SC state government is hardly mass transit oriented. For a state so automobile oriented to wind up ranked as having the worst roads is inexcusable.
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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I live by the Starbucks with the drive-thru in Irmo, and it is insane busy. I'm not a coffee drinker, so I don't get it. That being said, this will probably get people in BullStreet in droves, and isn't that the path to success?
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