Is DC a Northeast City (living, state, largest, America)

[Ohio248]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

New Jersey is on the northern side of the Mason-Dixon Line.

Yes, but parts lie south of the Mason-Dixon line.

NJ was not included because it was part of the Union, but it is a fact, that parts lie south of the line.

So, using this logic, NYC can be part of the South, because parts of the metro area like south of the official Dixie boundary.

Obviously this is ridiculous in 2010, just like claiming Philly, Baltimore or DC is not in the Northeast.

[sk8t]

Originally Posted by Ohio248

It also proves NYC is a Southern City by definition.

NJ suburbs are south of the Mason Dixon line.

And, in case you haven't noticed, it's 2010. We aren't living in the Civil War era. Things have changed.

How so, NJ nor NYC are below the mason dixie. The mason dixie is the only objective thing that determines " southerness" everything else is just people subjective perception and stereotypes and don't really mean quat.

[sk8t]

Originally Posted by Ohio248

Yes, but parts lie south of the Mason-Dixon line.

NJ was not included because it was part of the Union, but it is a fact, that parts lie south of the line.

So, using this logic, NYC can be part of the South, because parts of the metro area like south of the official Dixie boundary.

Obviously this is ridiculous in 2010, just like claiming Philly, Baltimore or DC is not in the Northeast.

Are you blind? Where is Philly and NYC/NJ below the mason dixie?

[Ohio248]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Are you intentionally doing this are do you really not notice the difference?

Look at the maps. In DC and Atlanta, both have a majority black city propers (duh) but also large black populations in the suburbs(About 30% in the city and 70% in the suburbs in DC and about 20% in the city and 80% in the suburbs in Atlanta) . In both metros, the northern suburban section is extremely diverse, indicated by the "fruit loops" mix of people.

Detroit on the other hand has a majority black city proper (also duh) but it differs from both DC and Atlanta in that 90% of all African-Americans in metro Detroit live in the city of Detroit. Only 10% of the entire African-American population in Detroit live in the suburbs and in clusters where those suburbs too are majority African-American. The rest of the suburbs, or about 3.8 million people, is majority white as indicated it by the bright red suburbs.

You appear to have a listening problem.

You are admitting that all three metros are segregated by black and white.

The only difference is that Detroit has more blacks in city boundary. But, of course, Detroit has a much bigger city limits, so it is logical there are more blacks.

So the only difference you can come up with is that Detroit blacks are segregated within one municipal boundary, while Atlanta blacks are segregated within a few municipal boundaries.

That seems to be a pretty minor difference.

The fact is that all three areas have the same black-white patterns.

[Ohio248]

Originally Posted by sk8t

Are you blind? Where is Philly and NYC/NJ below the mason dixie?

I seem to see just fine. You are not seeing the southern tip of NJ well south of the Pennsylvania/Maryland line?

You realize Cape May, NJ is south of much of Maryland right??

[sk8t]

Ohio248 is blind. He is also spouting lies.

[Ohio248]

Originally Posted by sk8t

How so, NJ nor NYC are below the mason dixie. The mason dixie is the only objective thing that determines " southerness" everything else is just people subjective perception and stereotypes and don't really mean quat.

Um, what?? So this if your manufactured definition of southerness??

So, according to you, Puerto Rico is part of the South and feels very Southern only because it is in the U.S. and south of the official Mason Dixon boundary?

[sk8t]

Originally Posted by Ohio248

I seem to see just fine. You are not seeing the southern tip of NJ well south of the Pennsylvania/Maryland line?

You realize Cape May, NJ is south of much of Maryland right??

What on earth are you talking about? Don't make stuff up.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by Ohio248

The claim was that NYC has lots of poor and working class white neighborhoods in 2010. This is false.

Nobody made that claim. Or at least I didn't. I wrote the following:

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

This topic has been tossed about on C-D a number of times. My answer is "no." The chief characteristics of Northern cities are (1) heavy industry at some point in time; (2) heavy late 19th/early 20th century immigration from Europe, which led to (3) large white, ethnic and primarily Catholic blue collar populations. Because DC never really had any of those things, I don't consider it a northern city.

Now you're just making stuff up to try to win an argument.

[K.O.N.Y]

Originally Posted by Ohio248

Yes, but parts lie south of the Mason-Dixon line.

NJ was not included because it was part of the Union, but it is a fact, that parts lie south of the line.

So, using this logic, NYC can be part of the South, because parts of the metro area like south of the official Dixie boundary.

Obviously this is ridiculous in 2010, just like claiming Philly, Baltimore or DC is not in the Northeast.

Thats ridiculous what does nj have to do with nyc anyway. Its two different states regardless of a metro area