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Old 09-10-2022, 09:46 PM
 
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Crime rose rapidly since 1970s then 1980s to mid 1990s was crack era so it have highest crime rates you have to combine environmental lead levels peaked, economic slow down, white flight it hit the minority community the hardest. Environmental lead block the neural receptors that are needed to let the brain assimilate information. Baby boomers was in their teen years back then and world war 2 veterans coming home so they was depressed and jobless so you have increase in drug use and bigger demand. The great migration from down south people looking for work and factories jobs was getting ship overseas so they wasn't much jobs around so people turn to crime.


Lack of 2 parent households due to drugs and WW2. The economy wasn't growing fast enough. , Uncontrolled immigration, drugs, lack of political will to deal with community issues and root of it.


Something happen in late 1960s with baby boomers and urban areas


Chicago bad areas is not gentrifying like NYC and LA

Chicago torn down their projects so it spread gangs closer to their rivals

We pretty much have these same issues now, save for the lead theory. Although I feel like the lead theory might be blown out of proportion.
But we have some of the same problems still and we have a new set of problems in combination. The economy is not looking good. White flight or money flight is not guranteed not to happen, history repeats. If something happened before it could happen again, but just in a different manner.
Well paying blue collar factory jobs are still gone. Plenty of drug use today, probably more these days effecting a wide range of people, not just certain demographics.
I seen alot of articles with homicides commited by people of all ages, so it doesn't necessarily have to be the typical teenage young adults.


Lack of 2 parent households due to drugs and WW2. The economy wasn't growing fast enough. , Uncontrolled immigration, drugs, lack of political will to deal with community issues and root of it.


We still have these same issues in a slightly different way.
As you mentioned, Chicagos bad areas are not gentrifying, so why would Chicago homicides drop back to 450-500?
Also gentrifications doesn't mean it's permanant niether. The same flight that happened in the 60's can most definitly happen again in the future.
And it doesn't necessarily have to be just black vs black homicides to raise the rates. The white homicide rate can just as easily rise aswell as our societies culture keeps spiraling downward as a whole.
White people had very high rates of violence in the wild western days, prohibition style and beyond. It's only a recent modern phenomenon where the white people havn't gotten crazy like that en mass.

Now add all or most of these issues we currently have and combine it with that fact that our society as a whole is becoming much more extreme. The political system is becoming very extreme. The manner in how people treat each other on a daily basis is becoming a bit more extreme.
When bad things happen (especially in mass as a collective), people tend to remember this and adapt.
When one hurts a woman, she will remember... it is the same concept with everything organic.
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Old 09-11-2022, 03:25 PM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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A man was shot and killed in the Calvert Square projects in Norfolk last night. That's 47 for the year.

Washington DC - 148 | 21.6
Norfolk - 47 | 19.7
Richmond - 39 | 17.2
Portsmouth - 27 | 27.5
Newport News - 19 | 10.2
Hampton - 17 | 12.3
Fairfax County - 16 | 1.5
Chesapeake - 15 | 6.0
Virginia Beach - 15 | 3.2
Roanoke - 15 | 14.9
Petersburg - 14 | 41.8
Henrico County - 13 | 3.8
Chesterfield County - 11 | 3.0
Suffolk - 10 | 10.6
Prince William County - 8 | 1.6
Hopewell - 7 | 30.3
Danville - 6 | 14.0
Alexandria - 6 | 3.7
Lynchburg - 5 | 6.3
Arlington County - 1 | 0.4
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Old 09-11-2022, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Jackson,MS- 92 (60.1/100K)
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Old 09-11-2022, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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I can't get with this list. Double/ triple homicides counted as one and some include suburbs while others dont?
Where is a good source for Orlando?
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Old 09-11-2022, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Minneapolis 65

4 were shot at a bar.. 2 males and two pregnant females.. One of the males has died
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Old 09-11-2022, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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A man was shot and killed in the Calvert Square projects in Norfolk last night. That's 47 for the year.

Washington DC - 148 | 21.6
Norfolk - 47 | 19.7
Richmond - 39 | 17.2
Portsmouth - 27 | 27.5
Newport News - 19 | 10.2
Hampton - 17 | 12.3
Fairfax County - 16 | 1.5
Chesapeake - 15 | 6.0
Virginia Beach - 15 | 3.2
Roanoke - 15 | 14.9
Petersburg - 14 | 41.8
Henrico County - 13 | 3.8
Chesterfield County - 11 | 3.0
Suffolk - 10 | 10.6
Prince William County - 8 | 1.6
Hopewell - 7 | 30.3
Danville - 6 | 14.0
Alexandria - 6 | 3.7
Lynchburg - 5 | 6.3
Arlington County - 1 | 0.4
Decent improvement for Richmond. 90 murders last year, so it will be interesting to see if it keeps the numbers below that.
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Old 09-12-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: the future
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But why 450-500? Why not less than 100? Why is 400-500 this "natural" number for Chicago? Chicago did not have 400-500 homicides in 1900 or 1940.
This 400-500 number only existed in a time frame of about 20 years. What reason would it be for this particular number to stay confluent?
Why did Chicago have 900 murders in 2 seperate periods? These types of statistics do not work in the same fashion as population density and other metrics people like to compare on here.

Let me also add, why did Baltimore stayed over 300 after the riots 7 years ago? Same for St. Louis.
If the homicide rates in every city doesn't go higher, it certainly doesn't seem like it'll fall back to 2010 levels.
These questions are not towards you, just for those that view crime stats as some easily concrete metric.
There is a psychological factor that can't be measured that plays a part as well. The world is nothing but doom and gloom. Things were happening pre pandemic so that isn't the sole cause ex. Chicago, Baltimore, St Louis.I don't want to get too deep in the matter as I feel my post will be removed. During Obama tenure was some of the lowest murder crime rates since the 60s. Does he have anything to do with it, absolutely not but the sentiment and psychological state of ppl were different.
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Old 09-12-2022, 08:59 AM
 
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A man was shot and killed in the Calvert Square projects in Norfolk last night. That's 47 for the year.

Washington DC - 148 | 21.6
Norfolk - 47 | 19.7
Richmond - 39 | 17.2
Portsmouth - 27 | 27.5
Newport News - 19 | 10.2
Hampton - 17 | 12.3
Fairfax County - 16 | 1.5
Chesapeake - 15 | 6.0
Virginia Beach - 15 | 3.2
Roanoke - 15 | 14.9
Petersburg - 14 | 41.8
Henrico County - 13 | 3.8
Chesterfield County - 11 | 3.0
Suffolk - 10 | 10.6
Prince William County - 8 | 1.6
Hopewell - 7 | 30.3
Danville - 6 | 14.0
Alexandria - 6 | 3.7
Lynchburg - 5 | 6.3
Arlington County - 1 | 0.4
It looks like Norfolk is having a rough year. This is the first year I have seen Norfolk ahead of Richmond. I know Norfolk is usually second in raw numbers in Virginia.
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Old 09-12-2022, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Three shot and killed in Fort Lauderdale (all at West Park)

Yet another shooting and homicide in Miami Gardens. There's been quite an uptick of shootings the past three weeks in Miami/MDC.

Since the crime map only shows 6 months of data and is highly under reported, MDC has seen 58 murders between March 16th to September 11th, with the city of Miami having 31. Total of 89 murders between March 16th to September 11th and probably 110+ for the county including Miami. Miami Beach numbers are not included in the crime map either, so it could be slightly higher than the estimate.
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Old 09-12-2022, 10:18 AM
 
Location: 215
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Another bad weekend in Philly
28 shot 6 fatally. 8 homicides in total.

Only 2 less shooting victims than Chicago with half its population
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