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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.41%
Philadelphia 176 51.76%
Boston 35 10.29%
Providence 10 2.94%
Harrisburg 11 3.24%
Newark 21 6.18%
Wilmington 20 5.88%
Jersey City 18 5.29%
Voters: 340. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-04-2023, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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^If I can/could break away during that time of year, I would.

To Market, Amityville actually has a long history that goes back centuries: https://justice.tougaloo.edu/sundown...%20the%20shore.

I forgot to mention that this late actress of Good Times fame also grew up in North Amityville: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja'Net_DuBois
Thanks for passing that history along.

It brought to mind an analogue in the Philadelphia area. And I'm not talking about the Black communities on the Main Line, which I believe I mentioned upthread.

I'm talking about the swath of Camden County, New Jersey, where abolitionist Quakers bought land for free Blacks to settle and farm in the 1840s.

Two communities in that swath have special significance.

One of them is Lawnside Borough, incorporated in 1926 after the township out of which it was formed was dissolved by the New Jersey legislature so it could form. Lawnside is the first independent, self-governing Black municipality north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

The blacks who settled in Mount Laurel Township could have benefited from that self-government. As whites, mostly from South Philadelphia, settled in that community starting in the 1950s, they set up zoning ordinances that made it increasingly difficult for the Black farmers to continue living there and impossible for the mostly lower-income Blacks who lived there and elsewhere in the county to buy homes in the community. One sixth-generation Mount Laurel resident, Ethel Lawrence, sued the township over its practices in 1975, and the New Jersey Supreme Court ultimately agreed with her that the township had discriminated by not allowing the poorer Blacks to buy housing there. The decision, known simply as Mount Laurel, sparked a slew of lawsuits against New Jersey municipalities by lower-income Blacks that ultimately led to a second decision in 1983 known as Mount Laurel II that established that every municipality in the state needed to provide for lower-income housing within its borders.

The state formed an agency called the Council on Affordable Housing to help implement the "Mount Laurel doctrine" and protect municipalities from further legal action if they made good faith efforts to meet their obligations.* COAH is apparently moribund right now, but an advocacy group called the Fair Share Housing Center in Cherry Hill advocates for inclusive housing in the suburbs across New Jersey and beyond.

A related organization, Fair Share Housing Development, works to make the Mount Laurel promise real by building affordable residential communities in affluent Camden County suburbs. Its flagship development, in Mount Laurel, is named for Lawrence, and its offices are located there as well, at 1 Ethel Lawrence Boulevard.

*One of the ways they could meet those obligations was to fund lower-income housing in a nearby community that agreed to accept such development. In a sense, this undercut the aim of the Mount Laurel decisions by allowing affluent suburban communities to offload their responsibility onto others that may not be as affluent.
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Old 05-05-2023, 08:32 AM
 
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Thanks for passing that history along.

It brought to mind an analogue in the Philadelphia area. And I'm not talking about the Black communities on the Main Line, which I believe I mentioned upthread.

I'm talking about the swath of Camden County, New Jersey, where abolitionist Quakers bought land for free Blacks to settle and farm in the 1840s.

Two communities in that swath have special significance.

One of them is Lawnside Borough, incorporated in 1926 after the township out of which it was formed was dissolved by the New Jersey legislature so it could form. Lawnside is the first independent, self-governing Black municipality north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

The blacks who settled in Mount Laurel Township could have benefited from that self-government. As whites, mostly from South Philadelphia, settled in that community starting in the 1950s, they set up zoning ordinances that made it increasingly difficult for the Black farmers to continue living there and impossible for the mostly lower-income Blacks who lived there and elsewhere in the county to buy homes in the community. One sixth-generation Mount Laurel resident, Ethel Lawrence, sued the township over its practices in 1975, and the New Jersey Supreme Court ultimately agreed with her that the township had discriminated by not allowing the poorer Blacks to buy housing there. The decision, known simply as Mount Laurel, sparked a slew of lawsuits against New Jersey municipalities by lower-income Blacks that ultimately led to a second decision in 1983 known as Mount Laurel II that established that every municipality in the state needed to provide for lower-income housing within its borders.

The state formed an agency called the Council on Affordable Housing to help implement the "Mount Laurel doctrine" and protect municipalities from further legal action if they made good faith efforts to meet their obligations.* COAH is apparently moribund right now, but an advocacy group called the Fair Share Housing Center in Cherry Hill advocates for inclusive housing in the suburbs across New Jersey and beyond.

A related organization, Fair Share Housing Development, works to make the Mount Laurel promise real by building affordable residential communities in affluent Camden County suburbs. Its flagship development, in Mount Laurel, is named for Lawrence, and its offices are located there as well, at 1 Ethel Lawrence Boulevard.

*One of the ways they could meet those obligations was to fund lower-income housing in a nearby community that agreed to accept such development. In a sense, this undercut the aim of the Mount Laurel decisions by allowing affluent suburban communities to offload their responsibility onto others that may not be as affluent.
Interesting and I think what you mentioned in terms of having an incorporated municipality is important for such communities(could be a good forum topic as well). That is the thing with some of these Long Island communities, as they aren't villages, but unincorporated communities within a town(in this case, the town of Babylon). So, they may deal with similar issues on that level. Thankfully for North Amityville, it was largely middle class, then went through a rough period, before bouncing back to be more of a middle class community again.

Also, in terms of the South Shore, the previously mentioned West Babylon, with its predominantly black and middle class northern portion, is also nearby.
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Old 05-05-2023, 11:21 AM
 
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Providence is a good city and affordable. I’d add New Haven and Worcester. Both up and coming and not too expensive. I would be open to the nearby suburbs too.

NYC and Boston are great, but on a middle class budget schools become a major issue.
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Old 05-05-2023, 12:06 PM
 
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Nice and the festival is only an hour and 15-30 minutes from Albany-Schenectady-Troy too.
Speaking of the bolded area, a low key community in that area that could have some appeal in relation the thread is Menands just north of Albany. It is served by this one building Pre K-8th grade school district: https://www.menands.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000055344
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000055344
https://www.niche.com/k12/menands-school-menands-ny/

After 8th grade, students get a choice of six different high schools to choose from: https://www.menands.org/about-us/ (I'd say the first two are the best options/have the best rep, with the third being the closest and has the highest black percentage)

Some information for some of those schools in order: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000055375
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000055375
https://www.northcolonie.org/shaker-high-school/

https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000055406
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000055406
https://www.southcolonieschools.org/...l-high-school/

https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000055262
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000055262
https://www.watervlietcityschools.or...t-high-school/
A program at the school: https://capitalregionchamber.com/capital-region-p-tech/

https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000055320
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000055320
https://www.greenisland.org/

https://www.techvalleyhigh.org/

The village has a black median household of income of $66,615: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
and a median black family income of $85,393: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19113B

More information: https://data.census.gov/table?g=160XX00US3646536
https://data.census.gov/table?g=160X...SDP5Y2021.DP05
https://data.census.gov/profile/Mena...0XX00US3646536
https://villageofmenands.com/our-village/demographics/
https://villageofmenands.com/

Map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Me...16zL20vMHh4NDA

Block groups in the village: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...602-albany-ny/
Street views: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6799...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6782...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...602-albany-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6874...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6893...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...602-albany-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6948...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7000...7i16384!8i8192

It is also in a good location in terms of being minutes from Downtown Albany: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Mena...42.6498178!3e0

and Downtown Troy: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Mena...42.7284894!3e0

Even Downtown Schenectady is still a reasonable drive: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Mena...42.8121903!3e0
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Old 05-08-2023, 10:46 AM
 
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Cool little thing in Western MA I just learned about from a Facebook Group.

New England Noir, New England's first Black Wine festival. With attendees and vendors from all 6 New England States. Began in 2022

https://www.thenewenglandnoir.com/

https://www.instagram.com/thenewenglandnoir/

30 Minute north of Springfield's McKnight Neighborhood and 50 minutes north of Hartford's North End. 1hr25min from New Haven, 1hr15 minutes from Worcester.
Here is some information for a block group in that neighborhood, that fits some of the criteria: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...13-hampden-ma/
Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1177...7i16384!8i8192

Some block groups on the North End of Hartford: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...9-hartford-ct/
View: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8042...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...9-hartford-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8018...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...0-hartford-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7975...7i16384!8i8192

Beaver Hills area of New Haven: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3255...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3278...7i16384!8i8192

Edgewood neighborhood in New Haven: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3135...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3187...7i13312!8i6656

Amity, New Haven: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3324...7i13312!8i6656

Westville, New Haven: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3271...7i16384!8i8192

Union Hill, Worcester: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-worcester-ma/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2498...7i16384!8i8192

Also, Second Avenue/South End/Delaware Ave, Albany: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-26-albany-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6398...7i16384!8i8192

Sheridan Hollow, Albany: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...201-albany-ny/
Row houses in the block group near Downtown: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6554...7i16384!8i8192

Union Street/GE Realty Plot, Schenectady: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8122...7i16384!8i8192
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Old 05-09-2023, 10:33 AM
 
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Here is some information for a block group in that neighborhood, that fits some of the criteria: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...13-hampden-ma/
Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1177...7i16384!8i8192

Some block groups on the North End of Hartford: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...9-hartford-ct/
View: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8042...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...9-hartford-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8018...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...0-hartford-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7975...7i16384!8i8192

Beaver Hills area of New Haven: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3255...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3278...7i16384!8i8192

Edgewood neighborhood in New Haven: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3135...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3187...7i13312!8i6656

Amity, New Haven: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3324...7i13312!8i6656

Westville, New Haven: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-new-haven-ct/
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3271...7i16384!8i8192

Union Hill, Worcester: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-worcester-ma/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2498...7i16384!8i8192

Also, Second Avenue/South End/Delaware Ave, Albany: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-26-albany-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6398...7i16384!8i8192

Sheridan Hollow, Albany: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...201-albany-ny/
Row houses in the block group near Downtown: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6554...7i16384!8i8192

Union Street/GE Realty Plot, Schenectady: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8122...7i16384!8i8192
Speaking of the bolded city, some interesting information: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3665508

Professional references: https://www.union.edu/presidents-off...esident-harris

https://sunysccc.edu/About-Us/Colleg...ono%2C%20Ed.,D.

https://www.meetup.com/capitaldistri...professionals/

City Council: https://www.cityofschenectady.com/158/City-Council

originally from the city: https://www.governor.ny.gov/lt-governor-antonio-delgado
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Delgado

Some other middle class block groups in the city with a decent/good sized black population(largely along/near the Union Street corridor, the Woodlawn neighborhood in the southern end and parts of the outer West Side in the Bellevue and Mont Pleasant neighborhoods): https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8177...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8186...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8092...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8073...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7747...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7886...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7973...7i13312!8i6656

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7921...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7979...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7942...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8183...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7872...7i16384!8i8192

Some employers in/near the city: https://www.ge.com/gas-power/service...y-new-york-usa
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8125...7i16384!8i8192
https://dailygazette.com/2023/03/03/...lity-upgrades/

https://www.pricechopper.com/about-us/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8212...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.riverscasino.com/schenectady/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8223...7i16384!8i8192

https://navalnuclearlab.energy.gov/k...er-laboratory/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8204...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.union.edu/
https://www.union.edu/careers
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8154...7i16384!8i8192

https://nylottery.ny.gov/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8118...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.mvphealthcare.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8112...7i16384!8i8192

Besides the Schenectady City SD, some families go with private schools such as these in/near the city: https://nd-bg.org/
https://www.niche.com/k12/notre-dame...chenectady-ny/

https://www.mekeel.org/ (in Scotia across the river)
https://www.niche.com/k12/mekeel-chr...emy-scotia-ny/

Also, you have this art center in the Hamilton Hill neighborhood(blackest area of the city): https://hamiltonhillartscenter.org/

Other organizations: http://www.allofusuntitledandfree.com/

https://www.instagram.com/nationally...nessinc/?hl=en

https://concernedblackeducators.com/

https://www.schenectadynaacp.org/

It is also minutes from Albany, Troy, Saratoga Springs; with mountains nearby and it is only a few hours(if that)from Boston and NYC. So, while it wasn't listed, it is one of the cities in the region with one of the fastest growing black populations and still growing. This is spilling out into nearby suburbs like the highly regarded Niskayuna, Rotterdam, Scotia and Colonie in Albany County.

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Old 05-10-2023, 06:30 AM
 
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Speaking of the bolded city, some interesting information: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3665508

Professional references: https://www.union.edu/presidents-off...esident-harris

https://sunysccc.edu/About-Us/Colleg...ono%2C%20Ed.,D.

https://www.meetup.com/capitaldistri...professionals/

City Council: https://www.cityofschenectady.com/158/City-Council

originally from the city: https://www.governor.ny.gov/lt-governor-antonio-delgado
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Delgado

Some other middle class block groups in the city with a decent/good sized black population(largely along/near the Union Street corridor, the Woodlawn neighborhood in the southern end and parts of the outer West Side in the Bellevue and Mont Pleasant neighborhoods): https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8177...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8186...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8092...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8073...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7747...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7886...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7973...7i13312!8i6656

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7921...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7979...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7942...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8183...7i16384!8i8192

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7872...7i16384!8i8192

Some employers in/near the city: https://www.ge.com/gas-power/service...y-new-york-usa
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8125...7i16384!8i8192
https://dailygazette.com/2023/03/03/...lity-upgrades/

https://www.pricechopper.com/about-us/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8212...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.riverscasino.com/schenectady/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8223...7i16384!8i8192

https://navalnuclearlab.energy.gov/k...er-laboratory/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8204...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.union.edu/
https://www.union.edu/careers
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8154...7i16384!8i8192

https://nylottery.ny.gov/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8118...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.mvphealthcare.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8112...7i16384!8i8192

Besides the Schenectady City SD, some families go with private schools such as these in/near the city: https://nd-bg.org/
https://www.niche.com/k12/notre-dame...chenectady-ny/

https://www.mekeel.org/ (in Scotia across the river)
https://www.niche.com/k12/mekeel-chr...emy-scotia-ny/

Also, you have this art center in the Hamilton Hill neighborhood(blackest area of the city): https://hamiltonhillartscenter.org/

Other organizations: All Of Us

https://www.instagram.com/nationally...nessinc/?hl=en

https://concernedblackeducators.com/

https://www.schenectadynaacp.org/

It is also minutes from Albany, Troy, Saratoga Springs; with mountains nearby and it is only a few hours(if that)from Boston and NYC. So, while it wasn't listed, it is one of the cities in the region with one of the fastest growing black populations and still growing. This is spilling out into nearby suburbs like the highly regarded Niskayuna, Rotterdam, Scotia and Colonie in Albany County.
Just to add, in terms of the bolded suburban town, it is generally one of the more affluent towns in Upstate NY and if a family is flexible in terms of the type of community they would live in, but still want to be next to a city with a quite substantial black population, this would be a good option. schools are very good too. Its black median household income is $162,817: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Nisk...5Y2021.B19013B
Just over half of the black households there make between $150k-$199,999: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Nisk...5Y2021.B19001B
Median black family income is $167,692: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Nisk...5Y2021.B19113B
a little over 90%of families makes at least $125,000: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Nisk...5Y2021.B19101B
More information: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Nisk...NNIALPL2020.P1
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000038458
https://www.niskayunaschools.org/
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...kayuna+schools
District leadership: https://www.niskayunaschools.org/abo...ct-leadership/
https://www.niskayuna.org/people/jaime-puccioni-0 (equivalent of a mayor for a town)
https://twitter.com/NiskyFB
https://dailygazette.com/2017/11/27/...ls-basketball/ (same young lady: https://ukathletics.com/sports/wbbal.../olivia-owens/ )
https://uofrathletics.com/sports/foo...an-parker/8279
A block group in the town along the Union Street corridor:https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
A nearby district in Schenectady that is within walking distance: http://www.upperunionstreet.com/
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BnLbp3CA4H3KxdM87?g_st=ic

Other block groups: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/
https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...chenectady-ny/

It is also known for having a substantial Asian and Jewish populations.

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Old 05-16-2023, 10:36 AM
 
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In terms of a more rural/suburban/exurban place with a substantial black population that is generally middle class, Penn Estates(CDP) in the East Stroudsburg PA area in the Poconos meets the criteria.

It is essentially 30% black(alone, 35.3% inc. in combo) according to 2020 Census information: https://data.census.gov/table?g=160X...NNIALPL2020.P1
2021 5 year info: https://data.census.gov/table?g=160X...SDP5Y2021.DP05

According to 2021 5 year Census information, the black median household income is $103,500: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19013B
69% of black households make at least $100k: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19001B
Black family median income is $105,507: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19113B
71% of black family households make at least $100k: https://data.census.gov/table?t=Blac...5Y2021.B19101B

More: https://data.census.gov/profile/Penn...0XX00US4258948
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pe...%2Fm%2F0q3b5gw

School districts(primary): https://www.sburg.org/
https://futurereadypa.org/District/F...39201018052214

(a small portion is in this SD): https://www.pmsd.org/
https://futurereadypa.org/District/F...10187211153239

It is about an hour and 40-45 minutes from NYC: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Penn...40.7127753!3e0

and a similar distance to Philadelphia: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Penn...39.9525839!3e0

The East Stroudsburg metro/Monroe County PA has a black median household income above $80k(2021 5 year Census info): https://data.census.gov/table?q=Monr...5Y2021.B19013B
41.3% of the black households in the county/metro area make at least $100k: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Monr...5Y2021.B19001B

Its black family median income is a little over $91k: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Monr...5Y2021.B19113B
46.2% of black family households make at least $100k: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Monr...5Y2021.B19101B

The area/county is 14.8% black alone(17.8% inc. in combo) according to 2020 Census data: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Monr...NNIALPL2020.P1
2021 5 year info: https://data.census.gov/table?q=Monr...SDP5Y2021.DP05

It definitely has attracted some from nearby major cities/areas and may even get some that commute to employment centers in the outer reaches of those areas, including NJ across the Delaware River.
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Old 05-19-2023, 09:21 AM
 
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1. Walkability
2. Economy
3. Amenities
4. Safety
5. Culture
6. Suburbs
7. QOL
8. Infrastructure
9. Parks
10. Housing
11. Education

And lets exclude D.C.-Baltimore from this list.
The OP mentioned something in another thread that made me think, what are some transit friendly suburban communities that come to mind within the region that would meet much of the criteria?

I'm thinking of say the Westchester County cities(Mount Vernon, Yonkers, New Rochelle, White Plains, Peekskill, etc.); Boston area cities like Cambridge, Medford, Malden, etc.; Philadelphia area suburbs like Lansdowne, Yeadon, Sharon Hill, etc. or even providence area cities such as Pawtucket and Cranston.

You may even include suburbs in other areas like parts of Eggertsville(town of Amherst) outside of Buffalo within a short/reasonable walk or drive to the University Metro Rail stop: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.9...42.9544618!3e2

What are some other that come to mind?
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Old 05-19-2023, 09:28 AM
 
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Nubian Markets opened in Nubian Square, Bosoton as a Black-owned Supermarket, Cafe, and Halal Butcher. Mayor Wu and webuyblack were at the grand opening.

Grace by Nia opened in Boston's Seaport as a Black-owned 240-seat live music and fine dining venue. To much fanfare, several Patriots players attended during opening weekend.
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