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Old 11-05-2022, 09:45 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Late to this thread but I feel like something like this just has to be subjective and must go by gut feel as there are too many brands that could or wouldn't pass the sniff test, and if you're just going by ultra high end brands a lot of cities will get overlooked.

Anyone got an updated city tier list for 2022?
Way back in the thread (I forget what pages), there is a solid list of brands/designers that posters agree qualify as luxury. The "lowest" end brands are Theory, Vince, Rag & Bone types and then all the way up to Fendi, Prada, Van Cleef, etc. So it doesn't appear to be subjective.

Someone was working on an updated list, not sure how its progressing.

But the general ranking by count / options is along the lines of (in order)...

New York
LA
Miami
Houston
Vegas
Dallas
Chicago
Boston
DC
Atlanta
Philadelphia
Phoenix/Scottsdale

Then it drops off from there.
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Way back in the thread (I forget what pages), there is a solid list of brands/designers that posters agree qualify as luxury. The "lowest" end brands are Theory, Vince, Rag & Bone types and then all the way up to Fendi, Prada, Van Cleef, etc. So it doesn't appear to be subjective.

Someone was working on an updated list, not sure how its progressing.

But the general ranking by count / options is along the lines of (in order)...

New York
LA
Miami
Houston
Vegas
Dallas
Chicago
Boston
DC
Atlanta
Philadelphia
Phoenix/Scottsdale

Then it drops off from there.
Well, given that you can put price tags on what we're talking about here, yeah, you can put together a relatively "objective" measurement of who's high-end and who isn't, but since we do know that there are products/stores where the goods are overpriced, and since taste is a matter of opinion, there will always be an element of subjectivity and impermanence to any iconic list of high-end brands, merchants or products. Before 1990, who knew who Jimmy Choo was?

But the names at the end of your sentence above have been around a while (a good long while in the case of Van Cleef & Arpels*), so it's not totally subjective either but maybe rather the result of the collective judgement of cognoscenti over many years, or even many decades.

*But come to think of it, I can offer Abercrombie & Fitch as a counterexample of sorts. That company began as the outdoor outfitter to the One Percent (didn't they equip Theodore Roosevelt?), but now it's just another upscale mall chain.
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:37 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Well, given that you can put price tags on what we're talking about here, yeah, you can put together a relatively "objective" measurement of who's high-end and who isn't, but since we do know that there are products/stores where the goods are overpriced, and since taste is a matter of opinion, there will always be an element of subjectivity and impermanence to any iconic list of high-end brands, merchants or products. Before 1990, who knew who Jimmy Choo was?

But the names at the end of your sentence above have been around a while (a good long while in the case of Van Cleef & Arpels*), so it's not totally subjective either but maybe rather the result of the collective judgement of cognoscenti over many years, or even many decades.

*But come to think of it, I can offer Abercrombie & Fitch as a counterexample of sorts. That company began as the outdoor outfitter to the One Percent (didn't they equip Theodore Roosevelt?), but now it's just another upscale mall chain.
I get your point, but if we start discussing price tags and personal spending preferences then this thread will go down a rabbit hole because any luxury brand could be considered overpriced or tasteless to some... But the thread is about high-end shopping destinations (objective answers). The thread also discusses what brands qualify... So someone should post the list of luxury brands and you point out any that you find questionable.

Separately, it appears the thread takes into account present day vs. the early 1900s... Abercrombie hasn't been considered a luxury brand in our lifetimes (or if ever), but it's a storied brand for sure (as you mentioned). But Jimmy Choo started as a luxury shoemaker in the 80s and remains one today. The fact that it (he) didn't become well known until the 90s doesn't lower its stature.

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Old 11-05-2022, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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R1070 previously asked about if the Dior in the Galleria would result in closing of River Oaks Dior. Stopped by earlier, they’re saying that they plan to keep both. Crazy considering they’re only like half a mile apart. I guess Dior is big enough support both. Didn’t think they’d close the River Oaks one since it’s a flagship location
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Old 11-05-2022, 02:51 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Originally Posted by cpomp View Post
Way back in the thread (I forget what pages), there is a solid list of brands/designers that posters agree qualify as luxury. The "lowest" end brands are Theory, Vince, Rag & Bone types and then all the way up to Fendi, Prada, Van Cleef, etc. So it doesn't appear to be subjective.

Someone was working on an updated list, not sure how its progressing.

But the general ranking by count / options is along the lines of (in order)...

New York
LA
Miami
Houston
Vegas
Dallas
Chicago
Boston
DC
Atlanta
Philadelphia
Phoenix/Scottsdale

Then it drops off from there.
you forgot SF
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Old 11-05-2022, 02:54 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I get your point, but if we start discussing price tags and personal spending preferences then this thread will go down a rabbit hole because any luxury brand could be considered overpriced or tasteless to some... But the thread is about high-end shopping destinations (objective answers). The thread also discusses what brands qualify... So someone should post the list of luxury brands and you point out any that you find questionable.

Separately, it appears the thread takes into account present day vs. the early 1900s... Abercrombie hasn't been considered a luxury brand in our lifetimes (or if ever), but it's a storied brand for sure (as you mentioned). But Jimmy Choo started as a luxury shoemaker in the 80s and remains one today. The fact that it (he) didn't become well known until the 90s doesn't lower its stature.
agree 100%
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Old 11-05-2022, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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you forgot SF
I definitely think Honolulu belongs too
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Old 11-06-2022, 07:49 AM
 
Location: New York City
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you forgot SF
Darn, good catch. I knew I forgot a city. SF would likely fall near Dallas.

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I definitely think Honolulu belongs too
Another good catch, definitely up there.

The list of cities is actually on page 31. Likely some changes in totals, but the general ranking is probably about the same.
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Old 11-06-2022, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Originally Posted by cpomp View Post
Way back in the thread (I forget what pages), there is a solid list of brands/designers that posters agree qualify as luxury. The "lowest" end brands are Theory, Vince, Rag & Bone types and then all the way up to Fendi, Prada, Van Cleef, etc. So it doesn't appear to be subjective.

Someone was working on an updated list, not sure how its progressing.

But the general ranking by count / options is along the lines of (in order)...

New York
LA
Miami
Houston
Vegas
Dallas
Chicago
Boston
DC
Atlanta
Philadelphia
Phoenix/Scottsdale

Then it drops off from there.
Surprised Houston would rank above Vegas. There's just so much luxury retail in Vegas.
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Old 11-06-2022, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Surprised Houston would rank above Vegas. There's just so much luxury retail in Vegas.
I think Vegas’ total eclipses Houston by number of stores when we count each store rather than each brand. Because Vegas has 2-3 of seemingly everything. Where Vegas falls behind others is in smaller (not less luxurious) brands. Such as Isabel Morant. For the really big names Vegas has basically 2 of everything which would probably comfortably place it in 4th. Although New York is a tier of its own regardless, the difference between NY and LA would widen a lot if each store is counted as one rather than doubling up brands
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