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Old 06-09-2020, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Let's get one thing straight. I'm not shocked DC has a high murder rate....I've followed crime rates nationwide for years now. It's more it shouldn't have such a high murder rate considering it is the nation's capital and it's more wealthy than say Philly or St. Louis. NYC has been able to get it's murder rate down to less than 3/100k. Why can't DC? You'd think the folks in the Capitol would want to make sure DC looks squeaky clean like the people in NYC did.
NYC does not have the segregation that DC, or Chicago, Philly etc have. In even NYC's worst neighborhood, say Brownsville, Brooklyn, there are still working/middle class folks who have a steady 9 to 5, and make a steady income. It's not the extreme poverty and despair DC hoods have, where nobody can lead by example, or be a calming influence in the neighborhood. Basically, isolated poverty and segregation is the reason these places haven't had the same crime drops as NYC. Think about it, when NYC was at it's worse, and you had many neighborhoods with murder rates over 100 per 100 k, was when middle class NYers left the city in droves in the 60's and early 70's due to white flight because of the economic crisis, and rising crime/abandonment in the city.

However, with the NYPD defunded, and Deblasio's pro criminal agenda, NYC may just go back to what it was.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/06...t-in-brooklyn/
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:39 AM
 
Location: 215
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Crime appears to be making its way up towards Mt Airy, Oak Lanes, and now, the Lawncrest neighborhood.
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:52 AM
 
Location: 215
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NYC does not have the segregation that DC, or Chicago, Philly etc have. In even NYC's worst neighborhood, say Brownsville, Brooklyn, there are still working/middle class folks who have a steady 9 to 5, and make a steady income. It's not the extreme poverty and despair DC hoods have, where nobody can lead by example, or be a calming influence in the neighborhood. Basically, isolated poverty and segregation is the reason these places haven't had the same crime drops as NYC. Think about it, when NYC was at it's worse, and you had many neighborhoods with murder rates over 100 per 100 k, was when middle class NYers left the city in droves in the 60's and early 70's due to white flight because of the economic crisis, and rising crime/abandonment in the city.

However, with the NYPD defunded, and Deblasio's pro criminal agenda, NYC may just go back to what it was.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/06...t-in-brooklyn/


It's like this in Philadelphia, just not to the same degree as New York City. A few neighborhoods the city is pushing for new residents to live in are still in high crime areas ie; Kensibgton. A lot of flipping is going on in the neighborhood, Fishtown (part of Kensington?) has been revitalized, now, the "new and upcoming" neighborhood is Harrowgate.
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Old 06-09-2020, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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Overall crime is at 20 year low in Chicago but shootings and homicides remain the same

Chicago had 18 homicides reported last Sunday May 31th alone it was most violent day in 60 years

Data from the lab does not pre-date 1961, but the next-highest single-day murder total in Chicago was on Aug. 4, 1991, when 13 Chicagoans died in homicides, according to the report.

When the entire weekend is taken into context, 25 people were killed citywide from late May 29 through May 31, while another 85 people were hurt by gunfire, the Sun-Times reports, making it the most violent weekend in modern Chicago history.

In May 2020 alone, there were 332 shootings and 85 homicides, up from 198 and 53, respectively, in May 2019.

Data also shows 1,127 shooting victims through May 2020, which marks a 30% increase over last year. The total number of shootings, homicides and shooting victims in 2020 are each at their highest point since 2017, according to police data.

Still, the CPD said robberies, burglaries, thefts and carjackings in Chicago remain at 20-year lows so far this year.


https://news.wttw.com/2020/06/08/pol...ings-rise-2020

https://nypost.com/2020/06/08/inside...n-six-decades/

The weekend before last is one of countless examples as to why I'm currently side-eyeing and confused by the call for "no police". Chicago- No, America is not ready.
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Old 06-09-2020, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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The weekend before last is one of countless examples as to why I'm currently side-eyeing and confused by the call for "no police". Chicago- No, America is not ready.
Do you think more police has lowered crime in Chicago though? I think not. Maybe Chicago should fix their segregation problem which has caused more of an impact on crime in those areas. Chicago has had a violence issue for decades now and police have policed those communities for decades now. Clearly that ain’t working. Defunding the police and putting more funds into specific communities actually improves those areas more in the long run instead of a “reformâ€.
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Old 06-09-2020, 01:07 PM
 
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Do you think more police has lowered crime in Chicago though? I think not. Maybe Chicago should fix their segregation problem which has caused more of an impact on crime in those areas. Chicago has had a violence issue for decades now and police have policed those communities for decades now. Clearly that ain’t working. Defunding the police and putting more funds into specific communities actually improves those areas more in the long run instead of a “reformâ€.
This so called segregation issue is over 50 yrs at least. White Flight and industry abandonment only made it a major issue it might not have been.

Real Estate pricing instantly lowering home values if a minority family move in and if another and another the Minorities got blamed for lost home values. All this created this era of vibrant Black neighborhoods when the jobs and industry were there. That changed quickly and the result was totally negative and came to a head into the 60s joining with the anti-Vietnam protest and then riots as extremism and inability to solve things hit the fan.

Now instead of Corporate America moving low-skilled jobs to more inner-city locations where there is great need of jobs. They move to exurbs of Sunbelt cities creating more suburban sprawl. Even less is right in the inner sunbelt cities now as cost rose there too. Even rural Northern states lost so much also and many left depressed and abandoned mills.

Corporate America holds much responsibiltiy for abandoning our cities and exporting to Asia with tax incentives over a couple decades. Leaving for Suburbia also was going on before hi-tailing it to Asian. Now the North bleeds still to the Cheaper yet. Sunbelt regions. They too are rising in cost too and state and city debts.

So there is a lot of blame to go around. WE ARE TO BLAME not saying China is to blame. We created the monster by bringing them high-speed through the 20th century. Now they can do it themselves and BUILD CITIES while ours we bicker and blame are in despair and decline and not see all the lead up to that.

Again, many a black neighborhoods though segregated in they were only allowed to live in certain ones back in the 50s. They were vibrant when the industry was still there to employ them Into the 60s that all changed and we had this huge growth in a under-class and whole regions of cities in severe decline and Corporate Abandonment.
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Old 06-09-2020, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Not sure how many murders Miami Beach has after this. But it's somewhat personal because although I didn't know the victim, I know her brother and it is sad to see this.

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2...me-mysterious/
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Old 06-09-2020, 04:58 PM
 
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Who me?
Sorry, not you. The guy you were responding to.
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Old 06-09-2020, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Soundview
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The weekend before last is one of countless examples as to why I'm currently side-eyeing and confused by the call for "no police". Chicago- No, America is not ready.
But that happened WITH cops. So cops aren't stopping the violence.
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Old 06-09-2020, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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6/9/2020 update

New York City 153
Los Angeles 118
Chicago 248
Detroit 106
Philly 177
New Orleans 65
Milwaukee 75
Indianapolis 89
San Diego 20
Saint Louis 76
Columbus, Ohio 49



Rochester, NY 13
Atlantic city, NJ 1
BOWLING GREEN, KY 5
Macon, GA 29
Jacksonville, FL 72
Greenville, SC 12
San Jose, Cali 15
Chattanooga, TN 8
Hampton, VA 10
Memphis 94
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