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Old 06-03-2020, 08:22 AM
 
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Its already been a long year for everyone everywhere.

I do expect these numbers to subside a bit when things calm down.
Yeah, everyone be safe. It's as if the pandemic wasn't enough to deal with, and supposedly did not slow down the homicide rate as expected. If anything it made more people on edge. And now we have the riots following the murder of George Floyd.
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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Kansas City's homicide numbers are up 34% compared to the same time last year.

https://www.tonyskansascity.com/2020...-dies.html?m=1
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:04 AM
 
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Kansas City? Or Kansas City Metro?
The actual city. KC metro is like 2.5 million people. KCMO city proper is nearly 500k as of 2018 which has 75 murders as of the last count.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:08 AM
 
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Kansas City's homicide numbers are up 34% compared to the same time last year.

https://www.tonyskansascity.com/2020...-dies.html?m=1
I never hear anyone call KCMO a dangerous city like I do St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, Cinncinnati, Baltimore, etc, yet it has an insanely high murder rate. 15/100k and we're not even half way through 2020 yet.
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Old 06-03-2020, 10:56 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I never hear anyone call KCMO a dangerous city like I do St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, Cinncinnati, Baltimore, etc, yet it has an insanely high murder rate. 15/100k and we're not even half way through 2020 yet.
Well, a high murder rate does not equal a dangerous city.

For why its not mentioned, who knows... DC is the biggest culprit to slide by when in reality its crime stats are on par with Chicago and Philadelphia.
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Old 06-03-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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Well, a high murder rate does not equal a dangerous city.

For why its not mentioned, who knows... DC is the biggest culprit to slide by when in reality its crime stats are on par with Chicago and Philadelphia.
I'll never understand why D.C. has such a high crime/murder rate when it's one of the wealthiest cities in the nation and it didn't have a large industrial past like the midwestern cities.
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Old 06-03-2020, 12:06 PM
 
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I never hear anyone call KCMO a dangerous city like I do St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, Cinncinnati, Baltimore, etc, yet it has an insanely high murder rate. 15/100k and we're not even half way through 2020 yet.
Yeah, I've never understood this either. If you account for only the population in the urban core, KC probably has one of the top 3 homicide rates in the country.
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Old 06-03-2020, 12:53 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I'll never understand why D.C. has such a high crime/murder rate when it's one of the wealthiest cities in the nation and it didn't have a large industrial past like the midwestern cities.
Well DC has a long history of poverty and poor race relations, and the city was very much affected by the race riots in 1968. (something for you and others to read up on). It pretty much remained a shell into the 90s...

DC is not a perfect utopia of wealthy people. I find it shocking and a little sad at how easily people forget history. It might look shinier on the outside when compared to Chicago or Philadelphia, but its plagued with the same problems for largely the same reasons...

Two big differences:

1. DC hides is most impoverished (largely minority) neighborhoods due to natural geographic separation (rivers) and development pushing poorer people into a smaller confined area. Not really a good thing.

2. The national media paints pictures of American cities (often times false). DC NEVER gets painted in a negative light. Your post is a perfect example of the shock that DC actually has crime and poverty problems. Yet Chicago and Philadelphia (easy media targets) have their issues plastered on TV and largely exaggerated.

So try to understand that DC does in fact have its problems and the reasons are quite obvious if you do a little research. (not meant to be snippy, but this is an example of the media and soceity painting false pictures or hiding truth and logic).

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Old 06-03-2020, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I'll never understand why D.C. has such a high crime/murder rate when it's one of the wealthiest cities in the nation and it didn't have a large industrial past like the midwestern cities.
I think it's mostly how limited it is to a small area and also how it's generally been improving a lot over time. Chicago is similar in that regard though. NoVA and MoCo does wonders for the D.C area's image. Basically avoid 3 connecting areas, and you avoid 80-90% of the metro violence (Inner Beltway PG+SE+NE). Not many large MSA's have such distinct boundaries, and this gives the perception as long as you stay in the vast majority of NoVa+MoCo+NW+Outer PG and the other adjoining areas your safe.

I also think compared to Chicago a visitor to D.C's experience might be more suburban outright which leads to a better perception of the area, things like Airport locations and tourist locations help a lot. The three airports that serve the area are all in nicer suburban regions. Midway is in a meh area, O'Hare is in an okay location and close in to the city, your not seeing much of the expanse of middle class, sprawl before you enter the city.

Even then Chicago is still over-demonized due to politics, and the fact that when talking shear numbers it looks really bad compared to smaller cities.
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Old 06-03-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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Well DC has a long history of poverty and poor race relations, and the city was very much affected by the race riots in 1968. (something for you and others to read up on). It pretty much remained a shell into the 90s...

DC is not a perfect utopia of wealthy people. I find it shocking and a little sad at how easily people forget history. It might look shinier on the outside when compared to Chicago or Philadelphia, but its plagued with the same problems for largely the same reasons...

Two big differences:

1. DC hides is most impoverished (largely minority) neighborhoods due to natural geographic separation (rivers) and development pushing poorer people into a smaller confined area. Not really a good thing.

2. The national media paints pictures of American cities (often times false). DC NEVER gets painted in a negative light. Your post is a perfect example of the shock that DC actually has crime and poverty problems. Yet Chicago and Philadelphia (easy media targets) have their issues plastered on TV and largely exaggerated.

So try to understand that DC does in fact have its problems and the reasons are quite obvious if you do a little research. (not meant to be snippy, but this is an example of the media and soceity painting false pictures or hiding truth and logic).
Let's get one thing straight. I'm not shocked DC has a high murder rate....I've followed crime rates nationwide for years now. It's more it shouldn't have such a high murder rate considering it is the nation's capital and it's more wealthy than say Philly or St. Louis. NYC has been able to get it's murder rate down to less than 3/100k. Why can't DC? You'd think the folks in the Capitol would want to make sure DC looks squeaky clean like the people in NYC did.
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