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Statistically the destruction of Fort Mims Alabama by the Creek Indians in 1813 was a far worse disaster than 9/11. 500 Americans, mostly civilians including women and children were killed at a time when our population was a little over 7,200,00.
In terms of volume, I would have voted for NYC, but I didn't. I voted on what the city did with their skyline. Chicago takes a lot of punches on these forums, mainly from Houstonians, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is probably the best skyline in the nation, and probably ranks among the best in the world.
Just because NYC stretches, doesn't mean its attractive. I'd like NYC if it were more diverse. In the Chicago skyline, you have art-deco and modern. They flow perfectly together.
And with the Trump Tower finished, the city is even more appealing.
its funny how people think if you have quantity, you automatically lose quality. Please, New York is imo, the first in quality. And Its skyscrapers and architecture as just as, if not way more, diverse as Chicago's. Chicago's beautiful and all, but just because it has the tallest buildings doesn't mean its the best. (plus Trump isnt actually completed yet!)
its funny how people think if you have quantity, you automatically lose quality. Please, New York is imo, the first in quality. And Its skyscrapers and architecture as just as, if not way more, diverse as Chicago's. Chicago's beautiful and all, but just because it has the tallest buildings doesn't mean its the best. (plus Trump isnt actually completed yet!)
New York architecture is hardly more diverse than Chicago's and many astute students of architecture make the argument that the quality of Chicago architecture is the finest in the nation. I'm not qualified to have much of an opinion on that but the point of view is out there.
The Trump building isn't finished but it's topped.
Both cities impress me and no other cities do. Except LasVegas which is impressive in it's sheer brass and gaudiness.
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No, I'd feel the same. It doesn't matter if I grew up in NYC, Hawaii, or Alaska. The point is that we're all American's. You can't pick and choose how people are going to feel based on their location in the country. If that were the case, why wouldn't New York, Washing D.C, and Pennsylvania be at war with Afghanistan instead of the whole country? Probably because we are one nation, undivided . What happens to you in New York, has the same effect on me here in Chicago, and I mean on a national level of course.
But the whole sympathizes for NYC is crap, its the new race card. You can't say anything about NYC because of 9/11, and I don't mean this about you necessarily so don't get defensive about it, but I'm just saying some New Yorkers use 9/11 as an excuse.
Rachael has brought up a good question there, Spire. An excuse for what? Do you think that New York has gotten anything in particular out of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center? Because if you think so, I'd appreciate very much if you could tell me what it is; I'm a native-born New Yorker, and I have yet to see any advantage this city has accrued.
New York architecture is hardly more diverse than Chicago's and many astute students of architecture make the argument that the quality of Chicago architecture is the finest in the nation. I'm not qualified to have much of an opinion on that but the point of view is out there.
1. The Freedom tower isn't taller than the sears tower, it just has a HUGE spire soaring 400 ft into the air.
2. The Spire will pass the Freedom tower anyway
3. Those are proposed buildings, not ones under construction. I could find you a list of proposed buildings in Chicago that would be just as long.
Maybe YOU should check your facts before you post. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones eh?
no its not just as long i checked both.
Im not wrong some are already U/C
Here is a revised version of the list
Fredoom Tower 1,776 ft U/C
Madison Square Garden Tower 1 and 2 1,400 ft Proposed
2WTC 1,350 ft U/C
Hudson Place Tower 1 1,300 ft Proposed
3WTC 1,255 ft U/C
Tower Verre 1,250 ft Approved
Manhattan West Tower 1,216 ft proposed
15 Penn Plaza 1,198 ft proposed
Hudson Place Tower 3 1,080 ft proposed
World Product Center 1,011 ft U/C
Girasole 1,000 ft U/C
4WTC 975 ft U/C
Manhattan West Tower 2 935 ft Proposed
Four Seasons Hotel and Condominiums 912 ft U/C
Beekman Place Tower 876 ft U/C
708 First Avenue Tower 864 ft proposed
68 First Avenue 836 ft proposed
56 Leonard Street 796 ft U/C
360 Tenth Avenue 774 ft Approved
130 Libert Street 743 ft Proposed
Goldman Sachs New World Headquarters 740 ft U/C
50 West Street 709 ft U/C
and 22 buildings between 600-700 ft around 70% U/C
no its not just as long i checked both.
Im not wrong some are already U/C
Here is a revised version of the list
Fredoom Tower 1,776 ft U/C
Madison Square Garden Tower 1 and 2 1,400 ft Proposed
2WTC 1,350 ft U/C
Hudson Place Tower 1 1,300 ft Proposed
3WTC 1,255 ft U/C
Tower Verre 1,250 ft Approved
Manhattan West Tower 1,216 ft proposed
15 Penn Plaza 1,198 ft proposed
Hudson Place Tower 3 1,080 ft proposed
World Product Center 1,011 ft U/C
Girasole 1,000 ft U/C
4WTC 975 ft U/C
Manhattan West Tower 2 935 ft Proposed
Four Seasons Hotel and Condominiums 912 ft U/C
Beekman Place Tower 876 ft U/C
708 First Avenue Tower 864 ft proposed
68 First Avenue 836 ft proposed
56 Leonard Street 796 ft U/C
360 Tenth Avenue 774 ft Approved
130 Libert Street 743 ft Proposed
Goldman Sachs New World Headquarters 740 ft U/C
50 West Street 709 ft U/C
and 22 buildings between 600-700 ft around 70% U/C
Okay what is this..The Spire and Waterview are on hold, but they will most definitely be built if Chicago lands the 2016 Olympics. If Obama can help them get it, the city is going to take off.
Under construction:
Chicago Spire: 2,000ft
Trump Tower: 1,362ft
Waterview Tower: 1,069ft
Aqua: 822 ft
Legacy at Millennium Park: 819 ft
300 N LaSalle: 785ft
Blue Cross Blue Shield: 743ft
One Museum Park: 734ft
Elysian: 686ft
155 North Wacker: 638ft
353 North Clark: 624ft
One Museum Park West: 620ft
The Clare at Water Tower: 589ft
Streeter Place: 590ft
600 Lake Shore Drive South Tower: 513ft
Okay what is this..The Spire and Waterview are on hold, but they will most definitely be built if Chicago lands the 2016 Olympics. If Obama can help them get it, the city is going to take off.
Under construction:
Chicago Spire: 2,000ft
Trump Tower: 1,362ft
Waterview Tower: 1,069ft
Aqua: 822 ft
Legacy at Millennium Park: 819 ft
300 N LaSalle: 785ft
Blue Cross Blue Shield: 743ft
One Museum Park: 734ft
Elysian: 686ft
155 North Wacker: 638ft
353 North Clark: 624ft
One Museum Park West: 620ft
The Clare at Water Tower: 589ft
Streeter Place: 590ft
600 Lake Shore Drive South Tower: 513ft
Okay what is this..The Spire and Waterview are on hold, but they will most definitely be built if Chicago lands the 2016 Olympics. If Obama can help them get it, the city is going to take off.
Under construction:
Chicago Spire: 2,000ft
Trump Tower: 1,362ft
Waterview Tower: 1,069ft
Aqua: 822 ft
Legacy at Millennium Park: 819 ft
300 N LaSalle: 785ft
Blue Cross Blue Shield: 743ft
One Museum Park: 734ft
Elysian: 686ft
155 North Wacker: 638ft
353 North Clark: 624ft
One Museum Park West: 620ft
The Clare at Water Tower: 589ft
Streeter Place: 590ft
600 Lake Shore Drive South Tower: 513ft
Lol, yeah. I would say so. Especially the 22 buildings 600-700ft tall in NYC.
Chicago has a great skyline, but come on, it's not NYC.
(and my opinion is completely unbiased because I could care less)
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. What happens to you in New York, has the same effect on me here in Chicago, and I mean on a national level of course.
