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am pretty sure that NYC has far more than 21% of its jobs more than 5-6 miles from Manhattan, probably well over 50%
BajanYankee's stats said the NYC metro has 21% of its jobs in the 8.9 square miles south of 59th street in Manhattan. That's rather high. Manhattan south of 59th street would be over 50% (maybe higher) of the metro's white collar office jobs. Not all jobs centralize well. Few will commute into Manhattan to work at Wendy's nor do say, doctor's offices have an incentize to be in the center rather than where people live.
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That's a good point. Without having any data in front of me, I would say that the Financial District and Midtown have higher job densities, but that you still have a whole lot of jobs in between those two districts. We tend to only think of "jobs" as people who put on a shirt and tie and work in skyscrapers. But there are quite a few tech jobs, service industry jobs, etc. located in other parts of Manhattan.
Yea, the area around Union Square has turned into a bit of a tech hub.
Yes, I meant job density not number of jobs. Looking at the 1990 numbers (anyone have something newer ) 1.98 million work south of 59th street in Manhattan. Of those, 739,000 work in Midtown and 340,000 work Downtown leaving 897,000 working elsewhere in Manhattan south of 59th street. Midtown and Downtown have the top three job densities on the table (606k / sq mile for Midtown and 440k / sq mile for Downtonw). The rest of Manhattan south of 59th street has a job density of 130k / sq mile. That's high, but not much higher than the highest residential densities in the area and lower than some other American CBDs. The average residential density is about 70 k / sq mile, so unlike most American CBDs, the area is rather mixed use; the job density is not enormously higher than residential density.
NY and LA are the only 2 US cities Ive been to where people actually exude this certain bravado and swagger that is what I have found in other megacities around the world.
Nowhere else in the US or Canada have that, Mexico City does tho.
Cause you can't walk anywhere in Atlanta. You have to use the subway to get to the individual points .
I'm kidding. Good for Atlanta, now they need to improve on getting that embarrassing ridership per mile about 3k.
Not to mention, Atlanta is 420k. Central L.A. doubles that population in a much smaller area. I pretty much guarantee the percentage using transit is significantly higher than Atlanta.
Not to mention, Atlanta is 420k. Central L.A. doubles that population in a much smaller area. I pretty much guarantee the percentage using transit is significantly higher than Atlanta.
That's like saying you'd take Oprah over Whoopi because she has a larger bra size. They're both terrible.
The problem with America is that our cities suck so bad that most Americans have no idea how a real city looks and functions. Our standards are incredibly low. Even the best of the lot (NYC excepted) get easily demolished by the likes of Amsterdam, Milan, Prague and Barcelona.
That's like saying you'd take Oprah over Whoopi because she has a larger bra size. They're both terrible.
No, that's like saying...your point was weak sauce. Your other point, that L.A. is urban density with suburban function, is refuted by the urban-like concentration of amenities within the region.
No, that's like saying...your point was weak sauce. Your other point, that L.A. is urban density with suburban function, is refuted by the urban-like concentration of amenities within the region.
That has nothing to do with function. Cities like NYC, Chicago and DC function with high with numbers of people commuting by transit and walking. Cities like LA and Atlanta function with high numbers of people commuting by car and driving in general. They are apples and oranges.
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Our standards are incredibly low. Even the best of the lot (NYC excepted) get easily demolished by the likes of Amsterdam, Milan, Prague and Barcelona.
What does this have to do with 'big city mindset'?
Amsterdam, Milan, Prague and Barcelona are all small and slow compared to New York and Los Angeles.
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) 1.98 million work south of 59th street in Manhattan. Of those, 739,000 work in Midtown and 340,000 work Downtown leaving 897,000 working elsewhere in Manhattan south of 59th street. Midtown and Downtown have the top three job densities on the table (606k / sq mile for Midtown and 440k / sq mile for Downtonw). The rest of Manhattan south of 59th street has a job density of 130k / sq mile. That's high, but not much higher than the highest residential densities in the area and lower than some other American CBDs. The average residential density is about 70 k / sq mile, so unlike most American CBDs, the area is rather mixed use; the job density is not enormously higher than residential density.
