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Saw a lot of the stuff down by McCormick but to me that is tad generous on DT but do believe that no matter how you slice it there are significantly more people in DT Chicago than in 2000
Alos I think most cities can make a case to extend population, for example U City in Philly is around another 50-60K and the distance Center city is basically the relationship of walking from the Loop to River North (this area looks like it added a ton people BTW based on my trips to Chicago over the last 15 years or so, as has the area leading to McCormick (to me a little further afield))
Right, it's clearly not in the financial district, but if you were to plop someone down on 18th and Michigan and ask where they were, most people in the metro would say they were in downtown Chicago. It's only a 12 minute walk up to Michigan Ave and Grant Park. That highrise district there has a very "downtown" feel. Especially since you move away from it in any other direction except north and you're into a very different feeling area. It's quite connected to the CBD directly to the north.
I think these must be from 2000, cause I know a few of those have grown a lot.
This is the breakdown for Chicago from around McCormick Place along the river, sliding up towards around Roosevelt and 90/94, then 90/94 north to around Oak Street area and over towards the lake. I don't think anyone in the metro would deny that this is "downtown". Of course there are lots of little areas within this ~3 square mile area.
2000:
Financial District/Lakeshore East: 8,643
Michigan Ave/River North: 36,506
West Loop (River to Halsted): 4,937
South Loop: 16,629 Total: 66,715
2010:
Financial District/Lakeshore East: 17,716 (+105%)
Michigan Ave/River North: 44,543 (+22%)
West Loop (River to Halsted): 9,716 (+97%)
South Loop: 36,973 (+122%) Total: 108,948 (+63%)
There are another 9,500 people in the West Loop area directly west of Halsted and the Loop that was almost entirely abandoned industrial or empty lots back around 2000.
In addition there are around 650,000 workers who come downtown each day and around 100,000 students who study in the immediate area.
Nice. But thought the near north side had a population of 80,000. But I may be wrong what do you think.
This entire thread already has many links showing that DC has well over 100 million square feet of private office space.
And obviously public space isn't listed by brokerage companies. The White House and Capital aren't for lease!
But DC has easily the second largest downtown, if you include private and govt. office space.
I know about the links on the thread buddy. But I was indirectly stating that d.c. has a lot of variance in office space. Some data shows d.c. Well under 100 million alone in office space. But i want to know how much does it have in total including government space.
I know about the links on the thread buddy. But I was indirectly stating that d.c. has a lot of variance in office space. Some data shows d.c. Well under 100 million alone in office space. But i want to know how much does it have in total including government space.
Commercial office space in DC is well over 100 million square feet! DC Metro is around 350 million.
Nice. But thought the near north side had a population of 80,000. But I may be wrong what do you think.
That's the 2.5 square mile area from North Ave down to the Chicago River on the south and the west with the lake on the east. It's the highrise district that makes up the Mag Mile, Streeterville and then some blocks up to the north of Division. It's 80,000, although 90% of that population is in a somewhat smaller area (as Goose Island and areas around the river aren't very residential).
Broadly, the "Central Area" as defined by the city would be:
Near North: 80,000
Loop: 30,000
West Loop: 55,000
South Loop: 21,000
Total: 186,000
People who either live right downtown or could walk to work or hop a short bus ride. Mostly in highrise/commercial areas. North Ave to I-55, around the United Center to Lake Michigan.
That's the 2.5 square mile area from North Ave down to the Chicago River on the south and the west with the lake on the east. It's the highrise district that makes up the Mag Mile, Streeterville and then some blocks up to the north of Division. It's 80,000, although 90% of that population is in a somewhat smaller area (as Goose Island and areas around the river aren't very residential).
Broadly, the "Central Area" as defined by the city would be:
Near North: 80,000
Loop: 30,000
West Loop: 55,000
South Loop: 21,000
Total: 186,000
People who either live right downtown or could walk to work or hop a short bus ride. Mostly in highrise/commercial areas. North Ave to I-55, around the United Center to Lake Michigan.
If you include govt. office space, downtown DC is the second largest business district in the U.S., behind only Manhattan.
Well it's private office space, but I'm pretty sure a majority of the privately-owned offices are occupied by government or government-related workers. I would also be willing to bet that the vast majority of government workers are located in private offices.
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Originally Posted by kidphilly
Good data; though if adding cambridge you probably would need to add Midtown to Atlanta or U City to Philly etc. (both a shorter walk than to Cambridge)
Personally, I think Cambridge is closer to downtown than Midtown/Downtown Atlanta (or at least equal), and believe it or not U City is actually included in those Philly statistics. It's all close though.
Well it's private office space, but I'm pretty sure a majority of the privately-owned offices are occupied by government or government-related workers. I would also be willing to bet that the vast majority of government workers are located in private offices.
Personally, I think Cambridge is closer to downtown than Midtown/Downtown Atlanta (or at least equal), and believe it or not U City is actually included in those Philly statistics. It's all close though.
Center City and University City have become pretty connected now... the locals consider both areas to be downtown Philadelphia. I mean they really are only separated by 200 feet of water.
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