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Old 08-07-2011, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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The new taxpayer-funded stadiums in Cincinnati did nothing to the neighboring areas. Actually, they caused other establishments to be torn down - like the Old Spaghetti Factory restaurant. Stupid.
Actually, the stadiums built in Cincinnati were the stepping stones of a completely new urban neighborhood along the Ohio Riverfront. It's called "The Banks" and the development in this area has been substantial. The two stadiums will soon be completely surrounded by residential, commercial and recreational development, along with a beautiful riverfront park. So, NO, it's not stupid at all!
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Old 08-07-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Center City
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Camden Yards added to an already lively downtown in Baltimore:


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Old 08-07-2011, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Wrigley Field not downtown and it is the liveliest evaaaa
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Old 08-07-2011, 07:48 PM
 
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Actually, the stadiums built in Cincinnati were the stepping stones of a completely new urban neighborhood along the Ohio Riverfront. It's called "The Banks" and the development in this area has been substantial. The two stadiums will soon be completely surrounded by residential, commercial and recreational development, along with a beautiful riverfront park. So, NO, it's not stupid at all!

I have been hearing talk of riverfront development since 1980. The only thing substantial built there since 1980 has been the flying pig statues.
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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Actually, the stadiums built in Cincinnati were the stepping stones of a completely new urban neighborhood along the Ohio Riverfront. It's called "The Banks" and the development in this area has been substantial. The two stadiums will soon be completely surrounded by residential, commercial and recreational development, along with a beautiful riverfront park. So, NO, it's not stupid at all!
A massive mixed-use development in the heart of downtown would presumably result in a livelier downtown regardless of the presence of a stadium.

I would be surprised if anyone can point to a concrete example of a "meh" downtown being turned around by solely by a sports stadium.

Jane Jacobs taught us that what makes downtowns lively is the presence of different types of people, there for different reasons, at different times. A sports stadium could scarcely be further from that description.
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I know this isn't baseball, but the Cleveland Browns are trying to get this built to bring development into the downtown/lakefront area.

The Lakefront District | Cleveland Browns Join Civic Efforts to Improve Lakefront
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:46 PM
 
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The north parking lot of Quest and Safeco field in Seattle has just been closed. They just started construction on a massive 40 acre highrise development of residential and comercial in downtown. The stadiums have parking garages instead of surface lots. The development is called the North Lot. The stadiums didnt cause the development but blocked it for several years leavin a big whole in downtown Seattle. But with parking garages its moving on and being built.
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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The north parking lot of Quest and Safeco field in Seattle has just been closed. They just started construction on a massive 40 acre highrise development of residential and comercial in downtown. The stadiums have parking garages instead of surface lots. The development is called the North Lot. The stadiums didnt cause the development but blocked it for several years leavin a big whole in downtown Seattle. But with parking garages its moving on and being built.
This is very interesting!

So the demand for parking actually discouraged the land from being developed till structured parking was built to replace any displaced parking?

Do you have any renderings or links for this project?
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I know this isn't baseball, but the Cleveland Browns are trying to get this built to bring development into the downtown/lakefront area.

The Lakefront District | Cleveland Browns Join Civic Efforts to Improve Lakefront
This is very cool. Football stadiums are far more destructive to urban fabric because they are dead more often and demand huge footprints for both the stadium and parking needs, but the location of Browns stadium is sort of isolated from downtown. It would be neat if they built up the area around the stadium. I think there would actually be more demand to live near a football stadium than a baseball stadium because the football stadium is only used 10-12 times a year. That's only 10-12 days where you would have to fight with people over parking, closed roads etc to get to your condo.
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Actually, a lot of development has gone on around AT&T park. Lots of new commercial and residential buildings are attracting a ton of young post-college porfessionals.
But would that be happening anyway? It could be growing at an even faster pace as a mixed use residential neighborhood if the stadium were not there.

I love the location of AT&T, I'm just asking the question.
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