Downtown Battle: Philadelphia vs Boston vs DC (live, places, America)

[MDAllstar]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

When I have time I will post everything going on in University City. It blows Arlington truly out of the water. DC as well IMO. And that's just UCity, not including Center City or all the other areas with large development plans (North Philadelphia, South Philadelphia, Delaware Riverfront).

LOL....I wouldn't try to do that if I were you. D.C. leads the entire nation in construction by a wide margin. You are barking up the wrong tree sir!


KidPhilly, please stop your fellow Philadelphian before he embarrasses himself trying to go up against D.C. in construction right now. Especially MDallstar of all posters in relation to development. It's not even a fair fight!

[urbancritic]

[quote=Summersm343;23302688] I don't think there is one building over 12 stories in DC. What is that a height of 130' max?

This is wrong, I live in DC's Navy Yard in a 14 story building over 200', the building across the street is the same. The height restriction is relative to the street it's on, not just a single height restriction applied to all buildings.

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by MDAllstar

LOL....I wouldn't try to do that if I were you. D.C. leads the entire nation in construction by a wide margin. You are barking up the wrong tree sir!


KidPhilly, please stop your fellow Philadelphian before he embarrasses himself trying to go up against D.C. in construction right now. Especially MDallstar of all posters in relation to development. It's not even a fair fight!

Okay give me a sec. You are actually out of your league in this argument. Developement, Construction and Real Estate is my forte. I am not saying DC isn't under a massive construction boom because that would just be false. It certainly is. Philly just got out of one and is about to go into another one. DC may be more impressive right now, but the future for Philadelphia is much more impressive. Oh and DC can not compare to the massive construction boom in NY right now. So no it does not lead the nation by a large margin. 12 story or 14 story buildings out rank a 1,700 foot One World Trade supertall and dozens of other supertalls? Nope not in the least bit.

[MDAllstar]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

Okay give me a sec. You are actually out of your league in this argument. Developement, Construction and Real Estate is my forte. I am not saying DC isn't under a massive construction boom because that would just be false. It certainly is. Philly just got out of one and is about to go into another one. DC may be more impressive right now, but the future for Philadelphia is much more impressive. Oh and DC can not compare to the massive construction boom in NY right now. So no it does not lead the nation by a large margin. 12 story or 14 story buildings out rank a 1,700 foot One World Trade supertall and dozens of other supertalls? Nope not in the least bit.

I'm talking about 200+ residential unit buildings. D.C. leads period. You need to refer to this site right here before you embarrass yourself posting the few unfunded and mostly stalled development proposals in Philadelphia. The stuff on this site is actually being built or about to break ground and all of it is near metro lines.



Over 200 different buildings either just finishing up, under construction, or breaking ground in the next 4 quarters around our Metro system: (If this is not impressive, I don't know what is. Talk about increased Metro ridership!)
Pipeline: New condos and apartments coming to DC metro area

New Silver Metro Line, Purple Line, 37 mile D.C. Streetcar system, Arlington Streetcar lines
http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/w...ransit-Map.jpg


And that stuff is just happening around our Metro system. I'm not even going to begin on development near our Marc and VRE Commuter Rail System.

[MDAllstar]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

Okay give me a sec. You are actually out of your league in this argument. Developement, Construction and Real Estate is my forte. I am not saying DC isn't under a massive construction boom because that would just be false. It certainly is. Philly just got out of one and is about to go into another one. DC may be more impressive right now, but the future for Philadelphia is much more impressive. Oh and DC can not compare to the massive construction boom in NY right now. So no it does not lead the nation by a large margin. 12 story or 14 story buildings out rank a 1,700 foot One World Trade supertall and dozens of other supertalls? Nope not in the least bit.

By the way, development is actually expected to increase in D.C. as developers from outside the country over sea's are all trying to get into the D.C. market and build:

GlobeSt.com - Multifamily Portfolio Sales Pending in DC - Daily News Article

[RightonWalnut]

Philadelphia

Under Construction

2116 Chestnut- 35 floors- over 400 ft
http://www.phillybroadcaster.com/wp-content/uploads/hillman5.jpg (broken link)

2040 Market- 13 floors


Temple University Gateway South Residence Hall- 3 Buildings, 24 floors at 312 feet, smaller building 8 floors and a 3 story retail complex


Family Court Building- 15 floors- 265 feet


Drexel Chestnut Street Dorm-19 floors


Penn Medicine at Washington Square- 18 floors- 265 feet


Pearson-McGonigle



2021 Chestnut Street- 12 floors


Hilton- University City (Not sure on the height)
[IMG]http://media.philly.com/images/600*450/20101207_inq_hotel07-a.JPG[/IMG]

Sister Cities Park


Dilworth Plaza




Barnes Foundation Museum



Wanamaker Redevelopment


Not to mention hundreds upon hundreds of rowhomes and other small construction on going


Planned
Science Education and Research Center- 241 feet


LeBow College of Business- 12 floors


Chinatown Eastern Tower Community Center- 23 floors- 265 feet


1900 Arch Street- 14 floors


Sugerhouse Casino Phase II and III- 300 feet


O'Havana Hotel- once again not sure on height



Cira Center South- tall tower 500ft smaller tower approx 300ft


1919 Market- Render WILL Change


Also in the planning stages is a new tower by Brandywine with Comcast involved.

American Revolution Museum also planned

A third museum tower has been proposed, no renders yet but it will rise 18 floors

Recently Completed

PA Convention Center Expansion


10 Rittenhouse Square- 33 floors




Translational Research Center
[IMG]http://assets.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/blog/john-george/5-3%20Penn%20TRC%20photo%20cropped*280.jpg?v=1[/IMG]

Temple U Architecture Hall


Colkett Translational Research Center Expansion


Penn Park



Jewish History Museum



On Hold

Trump Tower- 585 feet



Waterfront Square - The Regatta, The Peninsula, The Reef are complete

The Tides and the horizon are on hold


Mandeville Place- over 600 feet

[MDAllstar]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

Philadelphia

Under Construction

2116 Chestnut- 35 floors- over 400 ft


2040 Market- 13 floors


Temple University Gateway South Residence Hall- 3 Buildings, 24 floors at 312 feet, smaller building 8 floors and a 3 story retail complex


Family Court Building- 15 floors- 265 feet


Drexel Chestnut Street Dorm-19 floors


Penn Medicine at Washington Square- 18 floors- 265 feet


Pearson-McGonigle



2021 Chestnut Street- 12 floors


Hilton- University City (Not sure on the height)


Sister Cities Park


Dilworth Plaza




Barnes Foundation Museum



Wanamaker Redevelopment


Not to mention hundreds upon hundreds of rowhomes and other small construction on going


Planned
Science Education and Research Center- 241 feet


LeBow College of Business- 12 floors


Chinatown Eastern Tower Community Center- 23 floors- 265 feet


1900 Arch Street- 14 floors


Sugerhouse Casino Phase II and III- 300 feet


O'Havana Hotel- once again not sure on height



Cira Center South- tall tower 500ft smaller tower approx 300ft


1919 Market- Render WILL Change


Also in the planning stages is a new tower by Brandywine with Comcast involved.

American Revolution Museum also planned

A third museum tower has been proposed, no renders yet but it will rise 18 floors

Recently Completed

PA Convention Center Expansion


10 Rittenhouse Square- 33 floors




Translational Research Center


Temple U Architecture Hall


Colkett Translational Research Center Expansion


Penn Park



Jewish History Museum



On Hold

Trump Tower- 585 feet



Waterfront Square - The Regatta, The Peninsula, The Reef are complete

The Tides and the horizon are on hold


Mandeville Place- over 600 feet

LOL......really.....

That isn't even 10% of what is being built in D.C.


I didn't even include university expansion's taking place either:

Howard University, American University, Georgetown University, American University, and Catholic University are all building extremly dense campuses as well.

This is Howard's Campus plan that is supposed to break ground in the next 3 quarters:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/59878640

I will see if I can find the other school projects.

[Slyman11]

Originally Posted by MDAllstar

By the way, development is actually expected to increase in D.C. as developers from outside the country over sea's are all trying to get into the D.C. market and build:

GlobeSt.com - Multifamily Portfolio Sales Pending in DC - Daily News Article

Developers are doing that in many emerging boomtowns namely DC, Houston, and Dallas. Not only a DC thing. BTW NY, SF, LA, Miami, and Chicago always have that to

[Slyman11]

Mandeville place design looks like something you would find in Manhattan, the trides resemble he scrapers built in Miami, and the trump tower on the riverbank looks very nice IMO

[75 South]

Philadelphia and Boston are definitely livelier. DC is more commercial. As a tourist, I can't appreciate commercialism as much. As a local, I would have less desire for the scene per se.