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Old 05-23-2010, 08:12 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Demons are teaching the love of Christ? Demons are teaching people to love their neighbors? Demons are teaching that the ONLY way to God is through Jesus Christ?

Yes, indeed. If they can quote scripture while adding a twist which ensures the doom of the listener, they are more than happy to quote it. Satan himself does it.
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Yes, indeed. If they can quote scripture while adding a twist which ensures the doom of the listener, they are more than happy to quote it. Satan himself does it.
How does loving your neighbor as yourself and loving God ensure doom? Don't you think you have stretched this as far as you can? When are you going to stop attributing what is of God (love) to satan? Isn't that the unforgivable sin? (Matt. 12:22-33)
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Old 05-23-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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How does loving your neighbor as yourself and loving God ensure doom? Don't you think you have stretched this as far as you can? When are you going to stop attributing what is of God (love) to satan? Isn't that the unforgivable sin? (Matt. 12:22-33)
Hmm yes I believe it is
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Old 05-23-2010, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How does loving your neighbor as yourself and loving God ensure doom? Don't you think you have stretched this as far as you can? When are you going to stop attributing what is of God (love) to satan? Isn't that the unforgivable sin? (Matt. 12:22-33)
Nice spin, and EXACTLY what I am talking about. Thank you for proving my point. Is loving your neighbor the ONLY thing UR teaches? No, of course it is not, so why do you make it sound like that is what I was referring to??? URs teaches that EVERYONE will be saved whether or not they accept Christ as their saviour, and THAT, my friend, is that twist to the scripture which Satan uses and that is the reason why he doesn't mind quoting scripture. He is OK quoting it, as long as the need for accepting Christ is conveniently removed form the quotes.

Thanks again for proving my point.
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Old 05-23-2010, 03:44 PM
 
Location: New England
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Nice spin, and EXACTLY what I am talking about. Thank you for proving my point. Is loving your neighbor the ONLY thing UR teaches? No, of course it is not, so why do you make it sound like that is what I was referring to??? URs teaches that EVERYONE will be saved whether or not they accept Christ as their saviour, and THAT, my friend, is that twist to the scripture which Satan uses and that is the reason why he doesn't mind quoting scripture. He is OK quoting it, as long as the need for accepting Christ is conveniently removed form the quotes.

Thanks again for proving my point.
No it does not teach that at all , it teaches that everyone will eventually accept Christ as their Savior.

Spin this as much as you want but Jesus said "If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me". One of the main reasons i reject orthodox christianity is that though it says it's by faith in his grace alone , it really believes it sought , found and drew itself to God , which we know the scriptures teach the opposite, even the narrow gate is believed to be found by some inbuilt gps system they possess(ignorant of the fact that it's the Holy Ghost)
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Old 05-23-2010, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Nice spin, and EXACTLY what I am talking about. Thank you for proving my point. Is loving your neighbor the ONLY thing UR teaches? No, of course it is not, so why do you make it sound like that is what I was referring to??? URs teaches that EVERYONE will be saved whether or not they accept Christ as their saviour, and THAT, my friend, is that twist to the scripture which Satan uses and that is the reason why he doesn't mind quoting scripture. He is OK quoting it, as long as the need for accepting Christ is conveniently removed form the quotes.

Thanks again for proving my point.
URers teach that all are saved BECAUSE of God's love for ALL people....

LOL Love is the basis for UR's position... ETers position is that God only loves those who believe in him.

God does the saving and God is Love... therefore Love saves all people. That is what the URers believe... so my post stands correct.

How does loving your neighbor as yourself and loving God ensure doom?
You said UR's twisting ensures doom... did you not? And you said that it is satan that ensures doom through URers.. did you not?

Don't you think you have stretched this as far as you can? When are you going to stop attributing what is of God (love) to satan? Isn't that the unforgivable sin? (Matt. 12:22-33)

Are you not attributing to satan what is of God - UR (God saves all because God loves all.)

What part of UR do you ACTUALLY disagree with? The absence of fiery torture for the masses?
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Old 05-23-2010, 04:04 PM
 
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URs teaches that EVERYONE will be saved whether or not they accept Christ as their saviour...
I'll second Pcamps. It does not teach that at all. It says that all will turn to the LORD for savalation.

All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and
All the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship:
All they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and
None can keep alive his own soul.


Psalm 22:27-20
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Old 05-23-2010, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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ETers position is that God only loves those who believe in him.
Not true. He loves everyone, but will save only those who believe in Him. Those are His own rules, and therefore will not break them.
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Old 05-23-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Not true. He loves everyone, but will save only those who believe in Him. Those are His own rules, and therefore will not break them.
Where is it said then that God loves everyone but wants many to burn forever anyway?

He made this rule? why?
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