Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
This all happened in history. The Reformation hindered it somewhat. Consider the Spanish Inquisition where the Papacy executed thousands. This would still be going on if not for Napoleon. And more recently the USA with separation of Church and State.
But false doctrine originating in the Papacy still controls most of the break-away churches in Christendom. Would you knowingly submit to Antichrist? It is only through ignorance of scripture that many do.
The Beast with 10 crowned horns rose out of the kingdoms which have evolved from the Roman Empire. It was called Babylon (Revelation 14:8) a condition of worldly sin where the Jews were held in bondage. The beast has taken many forms through history. However, your analysis does not describe the of beast of today. Before the time of the end, the kingdoms will unite in support of the beast and its seven heads of blasphemy (anti-Christ doctrines).
Revelation 17:12 "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful."
The Beast with 10 crowned horns rose out of the kingdoms which have evolved from the Roman Empire. It was called Babylon (Revelation 14:8) a condition of worldly sin where the Jews were held in bondage. The beast has taken many forms through history. However, your analysis does not describe the of beast of today. Before the time of the end, the kingdoms will unite in support of the beast and its seven heads of blasphemy (anti-Christ doctrines).
Revelation 17:12 "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful."
This is pure fluff with no scriptural support unless twisted by the Dispensationalists.
This is pure fluff with no scriptural support unless twisted by the Dispensationalists.
I gave scriptural support. What scriptural support did you present?
Revelation 17:12"And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful."
Here is some more scriptural support. It tells us that the everlasting gospel will be preached to all nations just before the hour of God's judgement. This will be soon followed by the fall of the beast also known as Babylon.
Revelation 14:6 "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."
I gave scriptural support. What scriptural support did you present?
Revelation 17:12"And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful."
Here is some more scriptural support. It tells us that the everlasting gospel will be preached to all nations just before the hour of God's judgement. This will be soon followed by the fall of the beast also known as Babylon.
Revelation 14:6 "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."
Whats the use in all that if you dont believe the first paragraph of Revelation?
There is a warning at the end of Revelation, and you are giving your opinion of what happens on Jewish holy days at a Jewish temple.
You dont believe the first chapter and you dont believe the last chapter but you use it for some kind of proof of some end of days scenario?
Revelation begins on Tishri 1, and it is showing Rosh Hashanah unfolding from 3 different perspectives in body, soul, and spirit.
Those 7 seals have names and an order of putting on and taking off. Revelation isnt a guessing game, you have to know the temple, its laws, its feasts, its Torah portions, its idioms spoken by the priests performing their duties along with the comings and goings of the people according to temple tradition.
Where can we find a list of priestly duties along with their idioms and temple culture?
For instance, that 30 minutes of silence in heaven is the 30 minutes it takes for the incense to burn, and of course NOBODY is allowed to speak while the incense is burning.
Revelation
And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
The temple of God was opened up in heaven, so what day is it?
Hebrews 8
Christ's Eternal Priesthood
1Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; 2A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. 3For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. 4For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: 5Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
The Tabernacle on earth with its priestly order, its holy days are designed and officiated to do what is HAS ALWAYS BEEN DONE AND ALWAYS WILL BE DONE.
The Tabernacle with its priestly doing and sayings is derived from what is said and done in thr heavenly tabernacle
I cannot emphasize Hebrews 8 enough, it means everything.
On Rosh Hashanah Jesus judges you every year, and why do we know this?
What is said and done on Rosh Hashanah?
The book of Revelation is showing you Rosh Hashanah over and over with idioms and priestly duties that are only said and done on Rosh Hashanah.
It goes right through to Yom Kippur, through the feast Tabernacles(The wine harvest), and ends in Shemini Atzeret, if you dont know what is said and done at the temple in these days, there is no way to understand it.
The book of Revelation is ABSOLUTELY not about the end of days
It tells us this over and over, it was STRICKLY written for the Gentile who is becoming a Jew.
Thats why its not for Christians, it is for Gentiles who convert to the same religion as Jesus, it will not suffer a Gentile who keeps the Babylonian Christian days, the book in fact, is about such believers.
Hosea
1Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.
The two rains set and appointed, the first on Pentecost, the second on Tabernacles where on both days, all the holy days are schedualed to happen in a single day.
IF we follow on to know the LORD THROUGH KNOWING the rains, the rains teach who he is.
Whats the use in all that if you dont believe the first paragraph of Revelation?
I do believe the first paragraph of Revelation. The first three chapters show things that "must shortly come to pass". (Rev. 1:1) The first three chapters are revelation to branches of the church located in seven different cities in Asia.
However, in chapter 4 the revelation would begin to speak of future events: "Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter". (Rev. 4:1)
Rapture is purely a modern Christian invention, it isnt real.
I have been told it is in the bible but I can't help but think it's more meaning of not people disappearing. You the two in the wheatfield on will be standing the other not or something like that.
How many times has a Doctor said "he's gone now?" does that mean the guy who died disappeared, no of course not. It is to me more of saying he left his body. I always imagined that the parable or scripture just means the one standing is still alive but the one who isn't is physically dead. I don't see where it says people are actually disappeared. *poof* gone physically.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
