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Old 08-09-2008, 01:28 PM
 
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Anyone got diet coke?


Hey, Blue! Remember that one late Saturday night a few weeks back, where there was some talk about putting the Bud Lites in the freezer...in time?

June's feelin' the urge comin' on.

(Just kidding...I think.)
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Old 08-09-2008, 01:51 PM
 
Location: New England
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I tend to see all things going down hill since feminism errupted. The Jezebel spirit is rampant.
Wow...just wow!

My wife and I were just having this conversation. She has been in the "daycare" field for 15 years and a center director for 6-7.

Well, last Wednesday was my 3 month old son's first and last day of daycare.

My wife is quitting her well paying director position for two reasons. 1. To stay home with our son and future children and 2. Because the Lord has shown her the "wrong" in that industry and she can no longer in good conscience be a part of it. We believe it's helping to tear families apart and contributing to part of the problem in American society.

She used to rationalize it by trying to "make a difference" until she realized it's like working in a porn shop and then saying your there to "spread the light" by being a good employee. No, you are just helping to make a better porn shop.

We will struggle...a lot, and I'm prepping for the fight of my life but we can do this and God will see us through. We are confident of this.
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Old 08-09-2008, 01:53 PM
 
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bby07. Thanks for the source you sent. 1 question. What is the explanation for the very dramatic drop in the murder rate in the 1990's even continuing into the new millenium.

I think what you'll find is there is some correlation with prayer in school and the murder rate.. but there isn't any causation. There are other factors involved. So bringing back prayer in school won't help.

Its a bit like me getting up every morning and yelling "Rise great sun".. and the sun rises. There is a correlation.. but no causation.

There is an interesting theory out there by the guy who wrote Freakanomics that indicates because of Roe V Wade we saw a dramatic decline in violent crime rates in the 1990's. Its an interesting read.
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Old 08-09-2008, 02:09 PM
 
Location: New England
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There is an interesting theory out there by the guy who wrote Freakanomics that indicates because of Roe V Wade we saw a dramatic decline in violent crime rates in the 1990's. Its an interesting read.
What else would you expect from a flaming leftist? That abortion has a "bad" effect on society?

Come on...
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Old 08-09-2008, 03:06 PM
 
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I tend to see all things going down hill since feminism errupted.

Oh dear.

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Old 08-09-2008, 04:29 PM
 
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I tend to see all things going down hill since feminism errupted. The Jezebel spirit is rampant.
If we go a little deeper, i think the cause of feminism was the Fall of Men.

Man became narcissitic, ego and pride driven, with an unquenchable appetite for more, which left the crowning creation (Woman) dishonored.

The back lash, was Feminism... and after that even worse...metro-sexual neutrino's.


godspeed,

freedom
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Old 08-09-2008, 05:16 PM
 
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I begged my mom to send me to a private christian school so I could get away from the negative influences in public school. I found that it was mainly just a hodge podge of where the delinquents were sent hoping to straighten them out.



What is wrong with sheltering in mosts mind? A shelter is a place of security and comfort.


even "christian" schools are failing.

The above post got June thinking, as she couldn't help but recall the all too genuine efforts on the parts of many parents as regards "sheltering" their children back when June was a girl...(In the event it get's lost in translation, this post is a parody...)

You see, (brace yourselves, folks) June was educated in a very exclusive, very top notch academic private Christian high school ("gasp!") and () back when June was a dear, sweet, adolescent teenage girl in the late 60's. Trust me, this was the place that the "good Christian parents" wished to send their dear, precious daughters, as the academics were top notch, second only to the school's "mission statement" of providing only the best of Christian education to those who were able to afford it. --June's parents were able to afford it. Much to June's shock, dismay, and teenage angst and despair.

And yes, this was about as "sheltering" as any school could get back in the 60's. Parents across the county were able to sleep more peacefully at night knowing that their daughters were safely tucked away up atop a country mountain, far from the influences of corrupt Vietnam era America. What could possibly be more sheltered than a fine academic institution that was a Christian based prep school for young women? (In other words: all girls. No boys.) Yes, the good Christian parents slept much more soundly at night knowing that we, their dear, precious daughters, would know no boys in any Biblical sense, and willingly paid for our uniforms with a song on their lips and a prayer in their hearts knowing that never would any cleavage ever have the chance of presenting itself, along with the fact that hem lines were strictly monitored. (And June means strictly monitored.) --Because no good Christian preppie was to be admitted in those church services that they were attending at school, (and attending often) during a time when the evil influences of such things as the mini skirt was the norm. Oh no! Not for the dear, sweet, precious daughters of those parents who wished their daughters to continue to uphold the Christian values and morals that everyone had agreed upon their needing to uphold. --And if they got into Princeton, Harvard, or Yale after graduation, all the better. It was good. It was safe. It was sheltered. It was the "right" thing to do. The Christian thing to do.

So off June went.

And June recalls those years with fond memories. We may have been sheltered, but we were hardly exempt from the secular influences of the world at large! Because June remembers the time that the principal and accompanying faculty members stormed the girls bathroom, only to find the bottles of vodka hidden away in places that only the adolescent female mind would assume that no male teacher in his right mind would ever dare open the lid to! However, once Cindy Miller passed out cold in Biology lab, reeking of booze, we all suspected that our disection of worms that day would take something of a back seat. June always felt that that little faux pas could have been completely avoided altogether, as after all, it's not as if it wasn't the late 60's, and we all had easy access to pot. (So much easier to hide, you know!) And June still recalls those dances our school would so generously host on an occassional Saturday night. Where our fine, Christian, male counterparts would be "imported" from vast distances, arriving in bus loads. June recalls the giddy anticipation of hearing the principal announce over the loud speaker: "Girls, the boys are here!" and how we all approached them, very lady like, shy, and demure, indeed! --Only to hear, hours later, the same principal's voice, express utterances of sheer horror upon opening the door to the chapel across from where the dance was being held, shouting "Oh my GOD!" upon finding a dozen couples who were not exactly there to pray. June recalls how her sophmore English teacher addressed the class one morning, (to admonish some in the class who had managed to "escape" down the hill into the quiet little town for an evening of exploratory adventure,) for the "marks" that some had on their necks. And, how without further ado, (as we were reading "Romeo and Juliet") we were reminded that when we were old enough to engage in such activity, that it was essential that we all "remembered to leave room for the Holy Spirit." (June particularly remembers her confusion around that particular part.) And sadly, June still recalls how it seemed that perhaps once a year, one of our fellow students would suddenly seem to disappear, never to be seen or heard from again, as they had been the one who had snuck off to the woods, "made out" too long with God-only-knows-who, went beyond even "second base" and as such, had clearly not remembered to leave room for the Holy Spirit...The penalty for which was to be relocated quickly and quietly out of state.

June remembers all these things, and more. --But what she mostly remembers is that we were young, we were inquisitive, lord knows we had come from "good families" and had the accompanying good morals that we knew in the end would carry the day; get us by, get us through, and on into the world. Most of all, we had one another, and we had good minds. Despite our sheltered lives, despite our ingrained morals, despite the best efforts of all involved, (our parents, the faculty, our religious advisers) we still had an awareness of, and access to the "real world." -And that was a good thing. In a time of consciousness raising on a collective scale, we were determined to not be left behind. We ended up making our parents proud, and we went forth into the world and we knew we'd survive. --With our underlying morals still intact, along with something else equally as beneficial and precious: we had a sense of who we were, and that we'd survive, succeed...

-And for those who have read this far, and who are still wondering:

June's not tellin' whether or not she was one of those who was found in the chapel by the principal during the dance. But let it suffice to say that June was not unfamiliar with the chapel back then, in alot of ways, dances or otherwise.

Take gentle care.

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Old 08-09-2008, 05:27 PM
 
Location: SCCL, Lancaster, SC
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I am a Christian and believe that the Bible should be taught at home and followed according to the word at home and elsewhere. I think the reason for the increase in the things you mentioned is due to the fact that no religion of any type is taught at those homes. Therefore, the only religous teaching the children were getting was at school.

By bringing the church to the homes perhaps that would be the beginning of a change.

Just a thought!

Dunroven
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Old 08-09-2008, 05:31 PM
 
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I believe June made a very good point in her "testimony"..The point being...The more you shelter children from the world, the more ways they come up with to find out what they are being sheltered from
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Old 08-09-2008, 05:40 PM
 
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I fail to see how the Bible is going to help the cause. We can easily play the contrary and supply unlimited amounts of condoms and birth control pills to all that need. A jar of each on every teacher's desk.

The Bible does not teach the children to not have sex before marriage, that drugs are bad, that killing another student is wrong - It simply tells them that they are morally wrong and that they are damned to Hell for eternity. Why not enhance the program that teaches students that unprotected sex can lead to pregnancy? Provide more examples of live of doing such activity, have people who went down that road come into school to talk about and so forth. Show them what could possibly happen, ways to prevent and the like.

Awareness is the answer. Not morals and baby Jesus.
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