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No, you are not "boasting" as regards your children. You are, however, entitled to do so. We all do. We'll only be worse once we are all grandparents
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Freedom , I just want to commend you on your children who could be the roll model of what we all desire our children to be..I do know some parents who are homeschooling and the children do mingle with the others on field trip days and even an occasional classroom visit for a particular project, or to be tested according to that particular state laws.
My kids all went to public schools and had no problem staying out of trouble or falling into peer pressure..Again I credit that to "parenting"..My grandchildren also are having no problem of falling into the wrong crowd due to their parents "parenting"..I have a feeling that if your children ever do get into the public school system that they will do just fine because o9f your parenting skills....
June, you made a good point, it is'nt just public schools, most "christian" schools are just as bad.
I begged my mom to send me to a private christian school so I could get away from the negative influences in public school. I found that it was mainly just a hodge podge of where the delinquents were sent hoping to straighten them out. That is not any schools responsibility, (to straighten your kids out).
What is wrong with sheltering in mosts mind? A shelter is a place of security and comfort. God did'nt bless me with children to send them off for someone else to raise and guide. We are the guides and teachers.
Pro 22:6Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
1Cr 15:33Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.
So bringing back "religion" and the Bible back to public schools is not the issue because even "christian" schools are failing.
I tend to see all things going down hill since feminism errupted. The Jezebel spirit is rampant.
First, to blue62: My kids, too went to public school, as did I. We had prayer in the public schools in Pennsylvania until I was about 12 or so. My mom was from Wisconsin and was appalled. It was something she and my dad had philosophical arguments about frequently (you know, fun fighting). My mom was one of the most Christian people I have ever known, and she came from a "mixed" home, too. So it is the person, not the school, and not always the parents having a monolithic philosophy of religion that makes a person a Christian.
I took issue with a few things the schools said/did, but these were issues with individual teachers. Some a-religious teachers had very odd ideas about religion, to be sure. When one of my kids would say "Mr. Jones said XYZ about religion", I would discuss it with her. I had issues with the schools saying they weren't teaching values when they obviously were, e.g. dress codes, cheating codes, etc. I would point this out to my kids. These things happened in high school, when kids start thinking about these issues, whether their parents want them to or not. But for the most part it was good. The music director and orchestra conductor was a Mormon. He pointed out that much music has its origin in religion. Etc.
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It would probably help if the theory of evolution was not taught in schools. If it is going to continue to be taught, other religions should be taught also. The theory of evolution is a religion.
When did it first become a mandated subject in our schools? I am thinking it is more the cause of the decline in morals, than the lack of prayers in school.
I went to school from 1938 to 1952, and cannot remember prayers in the schools that I attended. Maybe they were there, and maybe they did have an influence on me. I can't remember....
My DD, a biology major in college, and I had a discussion about that recently. Part of the problem is that "theory" means something different in science than it does to laypeople. And many churches leave the decision about belief in evolution up to the individual.
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Homeschooling is the best alternative to secularism and the moral decay of children.
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freedom
In Secular Progressive Sweden, there are Socialist Groups who want laws arresting parents who attempt to home school their children. The main target is people of religious values. The Lutheran Church here is nothing more than a puppet state church and is supported by tax payer kronors. Hence they pursue what the government wishes. These laws already exist in Progressive Secular Socialist Germany.
The main thing is that it will never happen in the USA despite the pressure from Evangelical Pressure Groups.
Religion and the Bible was outlawed in the early 1960s in public schools across the country, along with prayers too. I think that we need to bring it back into schools, because I think it would help with all of the teen pregnancies and drug uses and alcohol and homicide rates which are increasing. I read and saw graphs where they showed levels for each of the things I listed above, immediately after the government outlawed religion in public schools, the rate for everyone of these things went up, but they were stable and declining before they outlawed it. Could outlawing religion in schools be the cause of society's problems today?
I have not read through this thread, but I believe that the greater portion of the problems you list should be taught at home and the others could be taught by bringing the "paddle" back into the principals office. (JMHO)
Also, "prayer" is not something you can take away from a person, whether it be in school, in the courtroom, or any other place that you can think of. I will prayer, as will my children, anywhere we darn well choose to.
It would probably help if the theory of evolution was not taught in schools. If it is going to continue to be taught, other religions should be taught also. The theory of evolution is a religion.
When did it first become a mandated subject in our schools? I am thinking it is more the cause of the decline in morals, than the lack of prayers in school.
The problem is that when the Clergy went to court over this "Creationism" vrs "Evolutionism" being taught in schools, they had the lousiest defense, when they had the best evidence for the genesis account in science, but they never touched on it or used it. Their focus in the court case was pointed to much at their personal hatred of "Evolution & Evolutionists". Hence they lost. Keep watching this section. I have a thread that will show why the creation account is scientific. Notice I did'nt say "Creationism" which I believe to be the fable it really is. Serves them right for loosing the case in Arkansas.
I don't mean to harp, but many religions, including Catholicism, allow people to make their own decisions about creation, creationism, intelligent design, evolution, etc.
It would probably help if the theory of evolution was not taught in schools. If it is going to continue to be taught, other religions should be taught also. The theory of evolution is a religion.
When did it first become a mandated subject in our schools? I am thinking it is more the cause of the decline in morals, than the lack of prayers in school.
I went to school from 1938 to 1952, and cannot remember prayers in the schools that I attended. Maybe they were there, and maybe they did have an influence on me. I can't remember....
The theory of gravity should be erradicated too. After all, it's only a theory. And we all know that theories hold no truth.
Religions ARE taught in the context of world history.
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