The Grand Canyon could not have been carved out by the Biblical Noah's Flood! (Revelation, Jesus)

[Charlie24]

Originally Posted by Meerkat2

The thing is he is not attacking the bible or Scriptures, He is understanding and using his intellect while also continuing in his faith

None of us know everything and society is about is a joint effort with many people having different skills and abilities which benefit the whole

You and he are both attacking each other’s understanding of Scripture

How can one call faith believing in something that can't be found in scripture.

That's not using faith, for faith would believe what is written, not what man says.

Sounds like a false faith if that's what you are basing it on.

[TroutDude]

You can lead a fundie to the truth - but you can't make them think.

[Charlie24]

Originally Posted by TroutDude

You can lead a fundie to the truth - but you can't make them think.

You can show an unbeliever the Word of God but you can't make them believe it.

Psalms 14:1

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good"

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Charlie24

You can show an unbeliever the Word of God but you can't make them believe it.

Psalms 14:1

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good"

There is no good fruit on your tree, it has fallen to the ground.

[TroutDude]

Originally Posted by Charlie24

You can show an unbeliever the Word of God but you can't make them believe it.

Psalms 14:1

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good"

I never said there was no God.

I said the cartoon character in your collection of old pamphlets ain't it.

[Charlie24]

Originally Posted by TroutDude

I never said there was no God.

I said the cartoon character in your collection of old pamphlets ain't it.

Even worse, a false God! Out of the pan into the fire.

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

Indeed, young earth creationism is an embarrassment to Christianity.

And here is Lane himself saying it at 1:24 into this video.

William Lane Craig - Creationism is an Embarrassment


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC9wokZGL8w

[Charlie24]

Originally Posted by Michael Way

And here is Lane himself saying it at 1:24 into this video.

William Lane Craig - Creationism is an Embarrassment


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC9wokZGL8w

I've always said the earth is millions of years old, how many millions I don't know.

What was on earth at that time I don't know.

But I do know that God created Adam and Eve around 6000 years ago.

I have no reason to doubt anything that was created, or what scripture has said.

[snj90]

It's just really frustrating to see someone who claims to believe the Bible put so much effort into attacking what the Bible teaches about the earth's history. The creationist response to old earth theories varies from reasonable to compelling. In some cases, it's hard to truly prove one viewpoint one way or another, so the creationist viewpoint is at least reasonable. In other aspects, it's compelling, in that the creationism poses problems to the old earth view. For example, we know the rate at which helium escapes into space, and we know the rate at which it decays and enters the atmosphere, and there's not enough helium in the atmosphere to account for an old earth.

And in this video, for example, problems for the old earth (and, by extension, old universe and old solar system) view are demonstrated for pretty much everything we see in the solar system. And these are compelling, because uniformitarians must invent rescue devices for their theories, for which no scientific evidence exists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzyQbOQ0dv0

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by Charlie24

I've always said the earth is millions of years old, how many millions I don't know.

Actually, the earth is dated to some 4.54 billion years give or take about 50 million.

What was on earth at that time I don't know.

The various geologic ages and the life forms that existed during each period are well documented.

But I do know that God created Adam and Eve around 6000 years ago.

No, you don't know that. And evolutionary evidence shows that modern man has been on the earth for about 200,000 years.

I have no reason to doubt anything that was created, or what scripture has said.

That's because you reject scientific evidence to the contrary.