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Old 06-17-2021, 09:15 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Why are you attacking the Bible?
I'm not attacking the Bible. I simply don't attempt to make the Bible into something it was never intended to be.
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:16 AM
 
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What you don't know is ''How'' God created the heavens and the earth. It wasn't in the way that Genesis says.
"It wasn't the way Genesis says," right there you have a problem with Bible believing Christians.

You have lost all credit with them!
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:17 AM
 
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I'm not attacking the Bible. I simply don't attempt to make the Bible into something it was never intended to be.
As Charlie pointed out, you stated it wasn't as Genesis says. Seems like you're attacking the Bible. I'm just curious, why?
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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You reveal a lack of knowledge concerning the formation of the earth which is dated to be some 4.54 billion years old give or take 50 million years. For a quick lesson concerning how the earth was formed, go here;

https://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html

The layers of rock that make up the Grand Canyon range from 270 million years for the youngest rocks to about 1.8 billion years for the oldest rocks.

https://www.canyontours.com/guides/h...-grand-canyon/

The issue is not what God could have done but rather what God did do, and the geologic evidence shows us how God chose to bring about the earth as it is today.
Why do you believe the dating system? All matter is the same age as it was created by God when He spoke it into being. Matter just takes different forms over time.

Just as God created Adam as a fully grown adult, God could have created the earth with "age" built in.

Your premises are all flawed and like I said in my first post, this argument is pointless and does nothing but undermine what little faith people already have.
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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As Charlie pointed out, you stated it wasn't as Genesis says. Seems like you're attacking the Bible. I'm just curious, why?
As often as I have said it (and not I only), you still don't understand. The Genesis accounts of creation and the flood have a theological purpose without the need for those accounts to have been historically true. The Bible is deeply seated in its ancient Near East context and reflects that environment. You know that not everything in the Bible is to be understood literally, but when it comes to the creation and flood accounts you for some reason think that they must be literal.
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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As often as I have said it (and not I only), you still don't understand. The Genesis accounts of creation and the flood have a theological purpose without the need for those accounts to have been historically true. The Bible is deeply seated in its ancient Near East context and reflects that environment. You know that not everything in the Bible is to be understood literally, but when it comes to the creation and flood accounts you for some reason think that they must be literal.
So you're attacking the Bible. But you're nice about it...saying that "it has a purpose", but it's just not to be believed.

Ok. Sure.
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:27 AM
 
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As often as I have said it (and not I only), you still don't understand. The Genesis accounts of creation and the flood have a theological purpose without the need for those accounts to have been historically true. The Bible is deeply seated in its ancient Near East context and reflects that environment. You know that not everything in the Bible is to be understood literally, but when it comes to the creation and flood accounts you for some reason think that they must be literal.
Interpretation of scripture MUST be proven from scripture, not proven by what Michael says!

Show us in scripture the account of the flood is not a literal fact!
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:28 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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"It wasn't the way Genesis says," right there you have a problem with Bible believing Christians.

You have lost all credit with them!
Every Christian believes the Bible. There are thousands of things in the Bible that are interpreted differently. Someone holding a different interpretation from yours isn't an indication that they don't believe the Bible.
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:28 AM
 
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Have you ever read "Winnie the Pooh"?

It is a tale of a little boy whose stuffed animals live by themselves in the woods, talk, have houses, play games, play tricks on each other, etc.

If I tell you that "Winnie the Pooh" is not literally true, that Christopher Robin Milne's stuffed animals did not talk and run around in the woods behind his house, I am not ATTACKING the book.
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:31 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Why do you believe the dating system? All matter is the same age as it was created by God when He spoke it into being. Matter just takes different forms over time.

Just as God created Adam as a fully grown adult, God could have created the earth with "age" built it.

Your premises are all flawed and like I said in my first post, this argument is pointless and does nothing but undermine what little faith people already have.
No, my premises are not flawed and your statements are grossly ignorant of the facts. The various dating systems used by scientists are extremely accurate when used properly and give us a reliable age of the earth.

The argument is not pointless as it concerns matters pertaining to the reality of our existence. Nor should it undermine anyone's faith, but rather, should strengthen it. A God who chose to create the universe though the big bang and who chose to use evolution to bring about the various forms of life is much greater than a God who created the way the Genesis story says he did.
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