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My dad is partially to blame for me being a believer in the salvation of all. At a young age my dad told me to never take mans word for anything, go look through the scriptures themselves to see if what people are saying is true or not. So when I got a glimpse of the salvation of all nothing anyone said could shake the witness I received from the glimpse and then searching the scriptures. It is ironic that the advice my dad gave me came back and bit him in the rear end as he was a believer in eternal torment and could not get me back into the fold so to speak.
I don’t know about you brother but when God first showed me the salvation of all my spirit leapt with joy and I wondered how in the world could I have ever believed in eternal torment.
I believe what you experienced was revelation from the Holy Spirit, and the fruit thereof (Gal 5:16):
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And yet, you and I have been told to deny it, even by other Christians.
Yes, I do. And the reason I call on the Holy Spirit to guide my understanding. Here are some scriptures that confirmed my own tradition, and calling on the Lord:
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Have you thought about asking God to do this for you too?
Yes. Prayer is a critical part of the Christian life. I credit the Holy Spirit for guiding me to the Catholic Church.
Forgive me for not taking your word for it that "There were 6 churches of the early days, one that held to eternal torment, one that held to annihilation and four that held to universal salvation".
How could there not be? Grave sin against the infinite Goodness and Majesty of God is infinitely evil and merits infinite punishment. Anything less would not do justice to God's honor. God is not a doting grandfather who winks at evil.
There is no work around I need to do mike scripture itself declares the aions come to an end therefore they simply cannot mean eternal.
And your last paragraph is simply wrong. There were 6 churches of the early days, one that held to eternal torment, one that held to annihilation and four that held to universal salvation
I believe what you experienced was revelation from the Holy Spirit, and the fruit thereof (Gal 5:16):
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And yet, you and I have been told to deny it, even by other Christians.
Mostly by other Christians. My dad was so frustrated with me one time, he said something along the line of don’t concern yourself with other look out for yourself. That really bugged me hearing my dad who was a preacher say such a thing as the gospel is not about you and me it’s about everyone. What that statement did show me though was the sad state the doctrine of eternal torment bring people to.
Forgive me for not taking your word for it that "There were 6 churches of the early days, one that held to eternal torment, one that held to annihilation and four that held to universal salvation".
How could there not be? Grave sin against the infinite Goodness and Majesty of God is infinitely evil and merits infinite punishment. Anything less would not do justice to God's honor. God is not a doting grandfather who winks at evil.
Because Jesus is not only the partition for our sins but for the sins of the whole world.
So again if this is so how can there be eternal torment?
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