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The fire may be everlasting because as part of God it is there to refine out the dross. But there is no everlasting punishment because there is no punishment only temporary negative consequences for what WE have become. Being saved is not dependent upon ANYTHING we do. It is entirely dependent on what Jesus accomplished for us, period!
Believing is not something that we "do".
It is a state of mind that comes from actually hearing the word of the Lord (Romans 10:17).
Believing is not something that we "do".
It is a state of mind that comes from actually hearing the word of the Lord (Romans 10:17).
I agree that believing is not something we can choose so it cannot be anything we do to save ourselves. Any way that you see it, we have nothing to do with our salvation.
I agree that believing is not something we can choose so it cannot be anything we do to save ourselves. Any way that you see it, we have nothing to do with our salvation.
We must place our faith in Jesus as Lord and Saviour (John 1:12, Romans 10:9-13, Revelation 3:20, Revelation 22:17, Hosea 14:2).
Jesus is the Saviour of all men...that is who He is, because He died for the sins of the whole world...
But there are many who have Jesus as their Saviour who have not received His salvation and therefore they are not saved.
Salvation is a gift; and as such it must be received in order to be possessed by an individual.
What Jesus did for us is appropriated by faith (John 3:16, Romans 5:1-2, Ephesians 2:8-9) and that is the bottom line.
What He did for us, He did for everyone; and therefore who He is is that He is the Saviour of all men.
However, not everyone receives the gift that He paid for when He died upon the Cross; while He purchased that gift for everyone.
There are those who will enter headlong into everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:41,46).
The foundation of the Lord standeth sure, "The Lord knoweth them that are His" and, "Let every man that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity".
God knows from eternity past those who will believe and thus appropriate what He would do for them on the Cross.
There is a sense in which Calvinism is correct in saying that He died only for them. Because, even though He died for the sins of the whole world, that sacrifice only avails for those who place their faith in Him.
God provided that sacrifice knowing that He is a God of freedom and that He would give to every man a choice as to whether he would receive or reject what He would do for them.
Free will is an important factor in this discussion therefore.
God did what He did knowing that there would be those who would receive what He did; and He did it with them in mind. And He did not fail to bring every one of them into the kingdom.
Because He predestinated every man either to salvation or condemnation, according to foreknowledge (Romans 8:29-30, 1 Peter 1:2).
And therefore, knowing those who would receive Him rather than reject Him, He put forth all of His effort towards saving them and did not fail to save even one of those elect ones whom He chose to save.
To quote Batman, we are not defined by who we are but by what we do.
Jesus cannot be called the saviour of all unless that is what he did/will do. You have no understanding of the firstfruits or their purpose or what they represent and you will never understand that scripture until you do.
Jesus made atonement not just for the sins of those that believe but for the sins of the sins of the world.
You are simply saying God started something and is unable to finish it. You don’t have very much faith in God to be able to do all he said he will do. To not believe God will do what he said he will do is called unbelief.
To quote Batman, we are not defined by who we are but by what we do.
Jesus cannot be called the saviour of all unless that is what he did/will do. You have no understanding of the firstfruits or their purpose or what they represent and you will never understand that scripture until you do.
Jesus made atonement not just for the sins of those that believe but for the sins of the sins of the world.
You are simply saying God started something and is unable to finish it. You don’t have very much faith in God to be able to do all he said he will do. To not believe God will do what he said he will do is called unbelief.
He also has him crucified every time someone believes, if he does not believe he IS the savior, not potentially a savior. How ludicrous is it to think being saved follows the action of those being saved.
He also has him crucified every time someone believes, if he does not believe he IS not potentially a savior. How ludicrous is it to think being saved follows the action of those being saved.
Lol I have often thought the same thing, and there is a scripture that speaks about crucifying him repeatedly. I will see if I can find it.
Lol I have often thought the same thing, and there is a scripture that speaks about crucifying him repeatedly. I will see if I can find it.
Hebrew 6:6
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He also has him crucified every time someone believes, if he does not believe he IS the savior, not potentially a savior. How ludicrous is it to think being saved follows the action of those being saved.