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You are purposefully ignorant of the fact that Jesus is the Word; but the Bible is the word of God.
You have a smorgasborg religion, Mystic.
You can pick and choose what you like and don't like out of the Bible and you formulate your own religion according to your own mind because of it.
Then you claim that you can be the judge of when the Holy Spirit is speaking and when He is not in order to justify your decisions that you are making about what you want to believe and what you don't want to believe.
I would suggest that you repent and get baptized in Jesus' Name. Then at least you will have a fighting chance of receiving the Holy Spirit!
As it is, you do not have Him while you justify the decisions that you make about what you will believe by saying that the Holy Spirit denies to you that He inspired what is written in holy scripture.
While He says to everyone else that He inspired all of it (2 Timothy 3:16).
You are the one who needs to repent from ignoring what Jesus revealed and demonstrated unambiguously about God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness on the Cross. You have accepted a primitive and barbaric interpretation of what Jesus did on the Cross and why. You should ask Jesus to forgive you for believing such blasphemous things about God's Holy Spirit.
Mystic, Jesus' death on the Cross exhibits the fact that God has wrath and justice against sin; for He took the penalty for our sins.
This is what the Bible teaches.
However, your religion picks and chooses from the Bible what it likes and does not like; and as such, it is a product of your own human thinking.
Ignorant primitive barbarians interpreted what the wrath of our savage ancestors did to Jesus as the wrath of God. They can be forgiven because they thought everything negative was the wrath of God. But how can any rational modern mind agree with such a stupid interpretation?
Mystic, I would also exhort you to consider that as a teacher you will incur a stricter judgment (James 3:1) and that for preaching another gospel than what we find written in the Bible, you are found to be accursed (Galatians 1:6-9).
If you repent of teaching the false gospel that is purported by you, maybe you will have a fighting chance to be saved.
But as long as you purport a different gospel than what the Bible teaches, I do believe that your preaching of that gospel will end you up in hell;
for if you succeed at convincing anyone of what you believe in, you will have succeeded at putting them in hell;
And those who are responsible for others going to hell will surely end up in hell apart from a true miracle of being forgiven through the blood of Jesus!
Ignorant primitive barbarians interpreted what the wrath of our savage ancestors did to Jesus as the wrath of God. They can be forgiven because they thought everything negative was the wrath of God. But how can any rational modern mind agree with such a stupid interpretation?
Ignorant primitive barbarians interpreted what the wrath of our savage ancestors did to Jesus as the wrath of God. They can be forgiven because they thought everything negative was the wrath of God. But how can any rational modern mind agree with such a stupid interpretation?
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
Because it is what the Bible teaches.
But you SHOULD be using what Jesus taught, revealed, and unambiguously demonstrated about God's True Nature and Holy Spirit as agape love and forgiveness, NOT wrath and vengeance. My great sadness is that most of you who believe in a wrathful God and eternal Hell will face corrective refinement in the very lake of fire you fear. Fortunately, it will only be temporary, but I doubt it will be pleasant.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
Mystic, I would also exhort you to consider that as a teacher you will incur a stricter judgment (James 3:1) and that for preaching another gospel than what we find written in the Bible, you are found to be accursed (Galatians 1:6-9).
If you repent of teaching the false gospel that is purported by you, maybe you will have a fighting chance to be saved.
But as long as you purport a different gospel than what the Bible teaches, I do believe that your preaching of that gospel will end you up in hell;
for if you succeed at convincing anyone of what you believe in, you will have succeeded at putting them in hell;
And those who are responsible for others going to hell will surely end up in hell apart from a true miracle of being forgiven through the blood of Jesus!
Your beliefs about God's motives blaspheme His Holy Spirit, IMO. The Good News Gospel is what Jesus revealed and demonstrated, NOT the Bad News Gospel that our ignorant ancestors interpreted and recorded using their primitive belief that God is a wrathful and vengeful War God.
But you SHOULD be using what Jesus taught, revealed, and unambiguously demonstrated about God's True Nature and Holy Spirit as agape love and forgiveness, NOT wrath and vengeance. My great sadness is that most of you who believe in a wrathful God and eternal Hell will face corrective refinement in the very lake of fire you fear. Fortunately, it will only be temporary, but I doubt it will be pleasant.
Your beliefs about God's motives blaspheme His Holy Spirit, IMO. The Good News Gospel is what Jesus revealed and demonstrated, NOT the Bad News Gospel that our ignorant ancestors interpreted and recorded using their primitive belief that God is a wrathful and vengeful War God.
Why would God write a book that would lead people to believe in such a manner as to do what it takes to never have forgiveness?
Why would God write a book that would lead people to believe in such a manner as to do what it takes to never have forgiveness?
You will never get it because you do not accept that God did NOT write anything, our ignorant primitive ancestors did. They interpreted everything using their fear of their War God and damnation. They were not capable of understanding any other God which is why Jesus was rejected and crucified.
His disciples were in no better shape to comprehend it either because they believed in the same wrathful and vengeful War God despite knowing Jesus and seeing His reaction to scourging and crucifixion. I suspect Judas actually thought Jesus would react very differently and smite the Romans. The disciples were not equipped to comprehend His love and forgiveness. They had to rationalize and interpret God's lack of wrath toward the Romans in the only way they could accept.
They decided that God's wrath must be toward us humans and that Jesus paid the price. It is a preposterously primitive interpretation of what our savage ancestors' wrath and vengeance did to Jesus. Such a ridiculous interpretation would never have been made by anyone with a modern mindset. That it has been preserved and perpetuated for millennia is a travesty of human ignorance and superstition about God, IMO.
You will never get it because you do not accept that God did NOT write anything, our ignorant primitive ancestors did. They interpreted everything using their fear of their War God and damnation. They were not capable of understanding any other God which is why Jesus was rejected and crucified.
His disciples were in no better shape to comprehend it either because they believed in the same wrathful and vengeful War God despite knowing Jesus and seeing His reaction to scourging and crucifixion. I suspect Judas actually thought Jesus would react very differently and smite the Romans. The disciples were not equipped to comprehend His love and forgiveness. They had to rationalize and interpret God's lack of wrath toward the Romans in the only way they could accept.
They decided that God's wrath must be toward us humans and that Jesus paid the price. It is a preposterously primitive interpretation of what our savage ancestors' wrath and vengeance did to Jesus. Such a ridiculous interpretation would never have been made by anyone with a modern mindset. That it has been preserved and perpetuated for millennia is a travesty of human ignorance and superstition about God, IMO.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
That is some great hoax that was pulled off by Paul the apostle...
him claiming that all scripture was inspired of the Lord and all.
I reject your premises and will believe that the Bible is the word of God to my dying day.
For, He has magnified His word above all His name (Psalms 138:2).
There was no hoax, just misunderstanding based on their long tradition of believing in and being conditioned to fear of a wrathful and vengeful War God. You think profitable for instruction means infallible. You misidentify God's Word with the scriptures that only CONTAIN words ABOUT God's Word Jesus. It is Jesus the Word of God (logos) who has been magnified above all His name.
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