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Old 11-26-2012, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Central Indiana
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A somewhat archaic term for God.

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It comes from the old English word Godhd also spelled godhad and meaning divine nature.



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You answered correctly. And, as for the Holy Spirit, nowhere in scripture is it referred to as a person, or a god, divine; but on the other hand many men, women (the Judges of Israel Psalm 82:1, 6 / John 10:34, 35) and many idols and even Satan is called a god.

Of what importance, then, is godhead?

Very little.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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I personally think that Christians tend to naturally think that the traditions they were taught to believe must be right and any variation on that must be wrong, and in doing so, like the Pharisees, miss the heart of the Law of Christ. Christ didn't promise that those who were obedient were necessarily good, in fact he asked the rich man "Why do you call me good, only God is good." He told the disciples that the gross sinners may enter into the kingdom of God before the disciples themselves. He compared the humility of the sinning tax collector favorably against the righteous Pharisee. He pointed out that we all fall short and sin and that salvation is an undeserved kindness. He said that those seeking knowledge of himself and the one who sent him leads to everlasting life, not only to those finding it. God sees the heart. The greatest sin is equal to the least, only one is unforgivable. David, beloved of God, had a man killed to have intercourse with the man's wife.

When I think of the monstrous acts against man and God I can't think of any which would cause me to judge so harshly the righteous along with the unrighteous without realizing my own humility in this sinful state, except for those who insist their doctrine is infallible in the name of God at the cost of stumbling others should they be wrong, as even the apostles were often wrong.
This is off topic. The thread is about the Personhood of the Holy Spirit, which is Scripturally revealed as true.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:36 PM
 
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You answered correctly. And, as for the Holy Spirit, nowhere in scripture is it referred to as a person, or a god, divine; but on the other hand many men, women (the Judges of Israel Psalm 82:1, 6 / John 10:34, 35) and many idols and even Satan is called a god.

Of what importance, then, is godhead?

Very little.
In view of the verses already provided, this is willful disregard for the facts, and is simply not true. And attempting to compare the deity of the Holy Spirit to human magistrates is ignorant.

I've already shown that the Holy Spirit is called God in Acts 5:3-4.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:48 PM
 
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For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and Holiness have been
clearly seen; being understood through what has been made, so that they
[you] are without excuse.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:56 PM
 
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In view of the verses already provided, this is willful disregard for the facts, and is simply not true. And attempting to compare the deity of the Holy Spirit to human magistrates is ignorant.

I've already shown that the Holy Spirit is called God in Acts 5:3-4.

"The majority of NT texts reveal God's spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God." (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575) It also says: "The Apologists spoke too haltingly of the Spirit; with a measure of anticipation, one might say too impersonally." The New Catholic Encyclopedia: - Vol. XIV, p. 296.

It is late here, so I will have to address the scriptures given in this thread tomorrow, or actually later today.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:06 AM
 
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For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and Holiness have been
clearly seen; being understood through what has been made, so that they
[you] are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

The Greek word is theiotés and means, and is translated as 'divine nature'. God's holiness is one aspect of His nature, but God has other attributes in His divine nature.

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Cognate: 2305 theiótēs (a feminine noun derived from 2304 /theíos, "divine," which is derived from 2316 /theós, "God") – properly, deity manifested, i.e. the revelation of God (His attributes) which reveals Himself for people to know (used only in Ro 1:20).
Strong's Greek: 2305.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:10 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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"The majority of NT texts reveal God's spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God." (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575) It also says: "The Apologists spoke too haltingly of the Spirit; with a measure of anticipation, one might say too impersonally." The New Catholic Encyclopedia: - Vol. XIV, p. 296.

It is late here, so I will have to address the scriptures given in this thread tomorrow, or actually later today.
It has been clearly shown that the Holy Spirit makes sovereign decisions. He speaks. He teaches. Those are qualities of Personhood. Not of an impersonal force or attribute.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:23 AM
 
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It has been clearly shown that the Holy Spirit makes sovereign decisions. He speaks. He teaches. Those are qualities of Personhood. Not of an impersonal force or attribute.
Spirit is how you describe the essence of someone. It is the character of a being. It is not a separate being. Spiritualists know this. Apparently the religious have no clue. The only possible Holy Spirit would be a God, if a God exists, otherwise all beings are Spirits, Holy, wicked, or everything in between. It takes a strange mind to accept illogical and improbable nonsense like what is used to defend a concept like the Trinity.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:48 AM
 
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Spirit is how you describe the essence of someone. It is the character of a being. It is not a separate being. Spiritualists know this. Apparently the religious have no clue. The only possible Holy Spirit would be a God, if a God exists, otherwise all beings are Spirits, Holy, wicked, or everything in between. It takes a strange mind to accept illogical and improbable nonsense like what is used to defend a concept like the Trinity.
You who are not even sure of the existence of God, as made clear by your statement 'if a God exists', are hardly qualified to speak on the triunity of God.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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Why are you all ignoring the things Jesus said ? any other person in all scripture has no greater athourity.
And if there is some one you equal to or reguard greater, Jesus has no lordship in you .
Jesus said "I will pray the Father and he will send you the comforter"( HOly spirit).
If your salvation is dependent on Christ , shouldn't one's basis for studdy be anchored in those things Jesus taught ,ahead of any other man?
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