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Old 06-21-2022, 12:22 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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I don't think businesses will allow that again. Sort of like sticking their fingers in their ears and singing la-la-la-la I can't hear youuuuu

They've had enough

 
Old 06-21-2022, 01:11 PM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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There are no backwards parts of California. Maybe not as affluent as where you live but also not as smug and thinking people are better than others because of where they live.
Sensitive, huh? Fine, there are third-worldish parts of LA itself, but the city/county government sometimes makes a public health effort. I should've made it more about the Wild West attitudes of some regions, where government seems to only exist re very basic services and major crimes. That is incompatible with maintaining public health.
 
Old 06-21-2022, 01:12 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I don't think businesses will allow that again. Sort of like sticking their fingers in their ears and singing la-la-la-la I can't hear youuuuu

They've had enough
I wish I was as sanguine as you. I think that Americans were "sheople" during the pandemic. No one asked hard questions. At the very least someone should have raised questions when beaches, tennis courts and playgrounds were locked off.
 
Old 06-21-2022, 01:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Economic damage was caused by closing everything down. Man made. If we try and do that again we are going to have a real long recession.
Yep, and the last time we shut down and paid people to stay home resulted in our current state of inflation and supply chain issues. We can't do that again...
 
Old 06-21-2022, 01:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I wish I was as sanguine as you. I think that Americans were "sheople" during the pandemic. No one asked hard questions. At the very least someone should have raised questions when beaches, tennis courts and playgrounds were locked off.
That was all I needed to see to know the rest of these "mandates" were just a simple way for control. I contacted senators, city council and everyone I could and never got a reply. We asked the hard questions just got no reply.

Closing forests and oceans. Now wear a mask and go play hunger games in Costco. I was furious. The only thing that kept my sanity was the ability to work from home.

That and I found ways around the stupid lockdowns were there was no one to chase us off. We used BLM land after they closed down National Forest. We left to go fishing off a private dock they couldn't lock down.

Now the govt is trying to use phone data to track who wasn't complying and that's not what it was supposed to be used for.

https://www.wired.com/story/value-et...itor-covid-19/
 
Old 06-21-2022, 01:50 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Now the govt is trying to use phone data to track who wasn't complying and that's not what it was supposed to be used for.

https://www.wired.com/story/value-et...itor-covid-19/
"Now"? That article is from March of 2020.
 
Old 06-21-2022, 01:55 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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"Now"? That article is from March of 2020.
Does it really matter? Do we live in a police state?
 
Old 06-21-2022, 02:11 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Sensitive, huh? Fine, there are third-worldish parts of LA itself, but the city/county government sometimes makes a public health effort. I should've made it more about the Wild West attitudes of some regions, where government seems to only exist re very basic services and major crimes. That is incompatible with maintaining public health.
Saying parts of L.A. are "third-world" tells me you have no idea what third-world actually is. It's clear to me now that you are either misinformed or a bot, assigned to this site to stir up trouble and make less than intelligent comments. I can't decide which but one thing is sure. You live in a bubble, which is why you think overzealous restrictions are the way to suppress the virus. Good luck with that

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I wish I was as sanguine as you. I think that Americans were "sheople" during the pandemic. No one asked hard questions. At the very least someone should have raised questions when beaches, tennis courts and playgrounds were locked off.
Americans were sheople during the pandemic. They've always been sheople. The number of independent thinkers has diminished over the years but there are still plenty of us around, thankfully. As for being sanguine, I don't know whether that's true but I have faith people will wake up before it's too late and if they don't they will have to learn to live with the very thing they despise now. Just have to wait and see.
 
Old 06-21-2022, 02:17 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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That was all I needed to see to know the rest of these "mandates" were just a simple way for control. I contacted senators, city council and everyone I could and never got a reply. We asked the hard questions just got no reply.
Control is what they want, 1ATP and those who walk through life believing the government is here to help you are delusional. The very thing they hold precious now will soon be under fire and they won't like it so much when restrictions are put on those. By then, it will be too late. I wish them luck.

Kudos for taking the initiative to contact your representatives. Sorry you never got a reply. Standard procedure, though. They're all in when they want your vote but forget who you are, once they get what they want.
 
Old 06-21-2022, 02:58 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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That was all I needed to see to know the rest of these "mandates" were just a simple way for control. I contacted senators, city council and everyone I could and never got a reply. We asked the hard questions just got no reply.
Same here. I wrote my local people to ask them to overturn Newsom's powers. Out of the two, only one replied and defended him every time.
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