Coronavirus (Los Angeles, August: brownstone, 2013, rent)

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by tikkasf

Welcome to the internet.......you can as you likely know, can find studies that seem to contradict one and another posted.

If it were just the internet, that would be one thing. Its most glaring on the news networks.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by tikkasf

I think it probably still a bit early to draw any firm conclusions.....without more data and studies


https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/2326...icron-england/


" Imperial College London COVID-19 response team estimates that the risk of reinfection with the Omicron variant is 5.4 times greater than that of the Delta variant."


"The study finds no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection. However, hospitalization data remains very limited at this time."

I just read through this study. Its based off of 24 people. Im frankly amazed at how much press its getting off of such a tiny sample size.

[tikkasf]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

I just read through this study. Its based off of 24 people. Im frankly amazed at how much press its getting off of such a tiny sample size.

Maybe because it is a university of stature.

[tikkasf]

As of the last update 12/16

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...n-variant.html

What We Know about Omicron

Infection and Spread

• How easily does Omicron spread? The Omicron variant likely will spread more easily than the original SARS-CoV-2 virus and how easily Omicron spreads compared to Delta remains unknown. CDC expects that anyone with Omicron infection can spread the virus to others, even if they are vaccinated or don’t have symptoms.
• Will Omicron cause more severe illness? More data are needed to know if Omicron infections, and especially reinfections and breakthrough infections in people who are fully vaccinated, cause more severe illness or death than infection with other variants.
• Will vaccines work against Omicron? Current vaccines are expected to protect against severe illness, hospitalizations, and deaths due to infection with the Omicron variant. However, breakthrough infections in people who are fully vaccinated are likely to occur. With other variants, like Delta, vaccines have remained effective at preventing severe illness, hospitalizations, and death. The recent emergence of Omicron further emphasizes the importance of vaccination and boosters.
• Will treatments work against Omicron? Scientists are working to determine how well existing treatments for COVID-19 work. Based on the changed genetic make-up of Omicron, some treatments are likely to remain effective while others may be less effective.

[tikkasf]

Look at the red line on the graph compared to last year around this time.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/1707...iant-dominant/

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by tikkasf

I think it probably still a bit early to draw any firm conclusions.....without more data and studies

Why don't we gather data, and conduct studies, before fanning panic and shutting things down?

[tikkasf]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

Why don't we gather data, and conduct studies, before fanning panic and shutting things down?

My guess to the answer to your question is that data & studies takes time to accumulate. When dealing with something like this, the decision is to error on the side of caution. Last I read on the CDC website, Delta variant has not yet been crowded out my Omicron in this country, it's flu season and the it's the winter time holidays period.

[goodheathen]

Pfizer will be making a Omicron-modified version for Europe.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/1...105647214.html

I can see that also in the USA, if some regions' cases are almost entirely Omicron.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

I just read through this study. Its based off of 24 people. Im frankly amazed at how much press its getting off of such a tiny sample size.

Because it fits the narrative.

Originally Posted by jbgusa

Why don't we gather data, and conduct studies, before fanning panic and shutting things down?

Exactly

[goodheathen]

And what happens to people not yet recovered from Delta (or, if very unlucky, Alpha) who get Omicron?

Too many unanswered questions. Pause button is the right approach.