OOPPS! California deficit now projected at 25 BILLION, bring on the taxes Moonbeam (Fresno: sales, foreclosure)

[TimC2462]

Originally Posted by FresnoFacts

Remember Jerry has promised no tax increases without voter approval. We'll see if he sticks to that or is still just another politician who can't deliver on a promise.

Voters handed the Democrats control of the budget, a legislative supermajority while also removing the 2/3 budget vote requirement and putting a Dem in as Governor. That was what the Dems said they needed so lets see how they use the tools.

As I've said before they are all on the clock as far as I am concerned. Show some progress before 2012 or expect more voter change.

Somewhere down the line, Jerry will flip flop on this promise. I already knew he wasn't going to hold up to this promise.... the reason why I didn't vote for him.

The good outcome of this is we know which party will take the full blame or credit in the next 2 years.

[The Land]

Originally Posted by bulldogdad

How about NO! This is about liberals digging us into this hole. Now deal with the ridicule until they dig us out. Or put me on ignore.

So you wait for a democrat to bail us out again. Typical, Democrats always have to clean up the mess republicans create. Why aren't you mad at Schwarzenegger?

[Majin]

Originally Posted by bulldogdad

How about NO! This is about liberals digging us into this hole. Now deal with the ridicule until they dig us out. Or put me on ignore.

Yes, the Liberal Arnold Schwarzenegger dug us into this hole.

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by Majin

Yes, the Liberal Arnold Schwarzenegger dug us into this hole.

Agreed, his POS RINO butt and the commie pinkos in the state legislature.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by bulldogdad

Ah Ah Ah will have to deduct one gold star for poor attitude. No need to get testy.

Textbook neocon reply. When ya cant answer a point, change the subject.

yes, yes, we know.

[steelstress]

Originally Posted by bulldogdad

Agreed, his POS RINO butt and the commie pinkos in the state legislature.

Let's not forget Davis's share in this mess!

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by FresnoFacts

Remember Jerry has promised no tax increases without voter approval. We'll see if he sticks to that or is still just another politician who can't deliver on a promise.

Voters handed the Democrats control of the budget, a legislative supermajority while also removing the 2/3 budget vote requirement and putting a Dem in as Governor. That was what the Dems said they needed so lets see how they use the tools.

As I've said before they are all on the clock as far as I am concerned. Show some progress before 2012 or expect more voter change.

It'll be presented like this: "If you don't vote for this tax increase, we'll be forced to fire your kid's teacher and cut back fire protection to 3 days a week. But its your choice, voter."

[Vascodagama]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Yep, we could cut all those programs and transfer the money to the dept of Corrections, duh.

Read the thread title, you will notice the use of the term Moonbeam, yet another poster who has no idea why that moniker was applied to Jerry Brown, but is undoubtedly internally convinced it is a negative.

Funny how what gave Moonbeam his name is now mainstream, yet the lower 20% still haven't figured it out.

I have never heard the word moonbeam as mainstream.
I was paying taxes in cali when moonbeam was the gov. The guy was an idiot back then and an old idiot now. He is a career politician and only got the job from his dads name recognition. Better hold onto your wallet with old moonbeam because its back to liberal out of control with no one to stop them.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by Don9

I have never heard the word moonbeam as mainstream.
I was paying taxes in cali when moonbeam was the gov. The guy was an idiot back then and an old idiot now. He is a career politician and only got the job from his dads name recognition. Better hold onto your wallet with old moonbeam because its back to liberal out of control with no one to stop them.

The name "Moonbeam" came from his advocacy of a telecommunications satellite, something that is now mainstream worldwide.

And I guess you forget how the actual "tax and spend" liberals were disappointed that he was an "era of limits" fiscal conservative? Reagan even said that Jerry was more fiscally conservative than he'd been as governor.

I don't think that there'll be "out of control with no one to stop" the Legislature - but Brown might find it harder to deal with the current far more dysfunctional legislature of today than that of his time.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Don9

Gee, just think how much we could cut if we didn't pay for illegal aliens schooling, healthcare and welfare

To be real, not as much as you think. While decidedly a factor, I think it more societal and sociological than fiscal since much of the funding comes from the feds.

I was always more concerned about what their influx did culturally.