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Old 03-23-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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The city projections won't come out until May, hopefully a large percentage of it went there.
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Old 03-23-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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If the city estimate doesn't reflect population growth, then there is something totally wrong with their method of calculation. Downtown and some of the surrounding areas have been on fire lately.
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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If the city estimate doesn't reflect population growth, then there is something totally wrong with their method of calculation. Downtown and some of the surrounding areas have been on fire lately.
And what about the other 90% of the city? Has it been on fire? Do you have any reason to believe Pratt City, Gate City, Ensley, Titusville, and Collegeville haven't continued to leak residents as they have for most of the last century?

I suspect the city's population has probably ticked up in the last 2 years, and if momentum continues, then maybe in 2020, the city will have more people than it did in 2010. But it's not going to be a drastic increase like you see in "hot" markets.

...And rocket kissing article? Heh... The Huntsville metro area added more people than any other metro in the state. And that's in absolute numbers... forget about a percentage basis. I'm sure an article will point that out... and why wouldn't it if that is what the estimates show?
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Because it is nothing to be proud of, as this column points out. I don't care about arguing over embracing immigrants, illegal or otherwise, the fact is Alabama's growth as a whole is weak. If AL or anybody else wants to brag about Huntsville's numbers even though they play with house money at the expense of the rest of the state, so be it. But it is crumbs compared to the rest of our peers. Oh, except Mississippi. The state's leadership is morally bankrupt and corrupt and isn't interested in being better. They do what they can for North Alabama and that doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things. Birmingham is on its own and trickles forward as best it can.

Census shows: Alabama stagnant without immigrants | AL.com
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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Almost all of Bhams growth is movement from within the MSA. Very few people move from other places to Bham. I spent the weekend in Uptown Bham and I can tell you why people come and are not really impressed. Nice for Alabama, but it falls short of most other metros, even many smaller ones.
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Oh right, never mind that city numbers haven't come out yet and never mind that the numbers released today break down international and domestic migration and prove otherwise - you can just know because you hung out in Uptown. People moving here from outside because of job creators like Compass, Honda, Mercedes, and UAB have propped up and netted out the people that grew up here and left. The same goes for statewide. If not for the few industries the state has been able to bribe to come here, and the people that moved in with them Alabama as a whole would have lost people because a lot of people grow up and move away or just die.
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Birmingham, AL
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Based on this map, it appears Jefferson County lost some residents.


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Old 03-23-2017, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Yep,

Jefferson 659,521 down from 660,007
Shelby 210,622 up from 208,527
St. Clair 88,019 up from 86,986
Blount 57,704 up from 57,676
Chilton 43,941 up from 43,809
Walker 64,967 down from 65,291
Bibb 22,643 up from 22,561
Talladega 80,103 down from 80,749
Cullman 82,471 up from 81,858
Coosa 10,581 down from 10,687

And now I see why the CSA gain was lower.


https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...xhtml?src=bkmk

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Old 03-24-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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Oh right, never mind that city numbers haven't come out yet and never mind that the numbers released today break down international and domestic migration and prove otherwise - you can just know because you hung out in Uptown. People moving here from outside because of job creators like Compass, Honda, Mercedes, and UAB have propped up and netted out the people that grew up here and left. The same goes for statewide. If not for the few industries the state has been able to bribe to come here, and the people that moved in with them Alabama as a whole would have lost people because a lot of people grow up and move away or just die.
Huh? If the numbers don't support your hypothesis, then numbers must be wrong.

Here's what's happening. You think the changes made are earth shattering but they still don't compare with other metros like I've been saying all along. Bham is doing great things but it does them all 2nd rate. Millennials are sensitive to this. I cannot tell you one friend I have who has stayed in Bham or isn't trying to get out. They all appreciate the good things happening but understand that if they want to enjoy all the things this country has to offer, you have to move to somewhere more on the up-n-up.

My sentiments are reflected in these numbers.
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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You think the changes made are earth shattering...

I stopped reading right here. Don't lie and put words in my mouth. I just said Birmingham was trickling forward a couple of posts ago. I think its best if we both just stop here and don't respond to each other any more.
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