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I hear you but they are the only ones. Last year the phils were desimated by injuries and ended up with the best record in Baseball. This year they have more than their share as well. We have had the starting lineup for a bout 10-12 games all year. Agree the bug has been worse to the Giants but other teams have gotten past it. End of the day, frankly their pitching isnt as good this year and their bats are dead (last year they hit way over their heads but hey they won fair and square). This year i really just dont see it. BTW the Phils just blew a 9th inning lead against the DBacks.
Nothing I wrote was meant in any manner to be an excuse for anything. Last year the Giants were extraordinarily fortunate in team health, especially pitcher's health. This year not so lucky.
And you are incorrect about the Giants pitching. Last year the led all of MLB with a team 3.36 ERA. This year the team ERA is 3.17. All that has changed is that there is now one team with even better pitching...Philadelphia which leads with a 3.09 ERA.
This year the Giants offense is averaging 3.4 runs scored per game, 29th among 30 MLB teams. Last year they averaged 4.3 runs scored per game, 17th out of 30 teams.
What happened last season was that the Ginats began the year with an offense as bad as it has been this season. They got big boosts by the in season addtions of Posey, Burrell and Ross and the offense went from inadequate to good enough as long as the extaordinary pitching held up.
This year the offense once more began as inadequate, but has become worse as the season progressed. (.671 team OPS before the All Star break, .637 since.)
And in Atlanta, right now the Giants are enduring exactly what a team with banged up players wishes to avoid...an extra innings game.
Nothing I wrote was meant in any manner to be an excuse for anything. Last year the Giants were extraordinarily fortunate in team health, especially pitcher's health. This year not so lucky.
And you are incorrect about the Giants pitching. Last year the led all of MLB with a team 3.36 ERA. This year the team ERA is 3.17. All that has changed is that there is now one team with even better pitching...Philadelphia which leads with a 3.09 ERA.
This year the Giants offense is averaging 3.4 runs scored per game, 29th among 30 MLB teams. Last year they averaged 4.3 runs scored per game, 17th out of 30 teams.
What happened last season was that the Ginats began the year with an offense as bad as it has been this season. They got big boosts by the in season addtions of Posey, Burrell and Ross and the offense went from inadequate to good enough as long as the extaordinary pitching held up.
This year the offense once more began as inadequate, but has become worse as the season progressed. (.671 team OPS before the All Star break, .637 since.)
And in Atlanta, right now the Giants are enduring exactly what a team with banged up players wishes to avoid...an extra innings game.
Fair points and agree was not your tone, my apology. See the dangers of reading and responding after watching the Phils do something stupid.
Last edited by kidphilly; 08-16-2011 at 08:06 PM..
Giants had lot of clutch hitting with 2 outs last year. Everyone said they needed a big bat to compete in the playoffs but they proved everyone wrong.
If the Giants get healthy soon enough, they do have a shot at the division title again.
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Originally Posted by Grandstander
Nothing I wrote was meant in any manner to be an excuse for anything. Last year the Giants were extraordinarily fortunate in team health, especially pitcher's health. This year not so lucky.
And you are incorrect about the Giants pitching. Last year the led all of MLB with a team 3.36 ERA. This year the team ERA is 3.17. All that has changed is that there is now one team with even better pitching...Philadelphia which leads with a 3.09 ERA.
This year the Giants offense is averaging 3.4 runs scored per game, 29th among 30 MLB teams. Last year they averaged 4.3 runs scored per game, 17th out of 30 teams.
What happened last season was that the Ginats began the year with an offense as bad as it has been this season. They got big boosts by the in season addtions of Posey, Burrell and Ross and the offense went from inadequate to good enough as long as the extaordinary pitching held up.
This year the offense once more began as inadequate, but has become worse as the season progressed. (.671 team OPS before the All Star break, .637 since.)
And in Atlanta, right now the Giants are enduring exactly what a team with banged up players wishes to avoid...an extra innings game.
Giants had lot of clutch hitting with 2 outs last year.
In 2010, with runners in scoring position and two outs, the Giants hit .212 with a sOPS (compares the team's OPS to the league OPS) of 80, which means they hit about 20% worse than the league in that situation.
They hit 8% better than the league in 'late&close' situations.
But were worse than the league when the game was tied or within 1 run.
They were also worse than the league average when trailing, but hit better than the league average when they were ahead.
*baseball-reference
On Monday, Scott Miller of CBS Sports tweeted that no team had made the playoffs averaging fewer than four runs scored per game since the 1988 Dodgers.
At the time, the Giants were averaging 3.43 runs per contest.
Since 1901, and excluding strike-shortened seasons, here are the eight lowest-scoring playoff teams using a normalized runs per game average:
The Giants opted to stand pat with their championship team with the exception of letting Juan Uribe walk as a free agent. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth about SF allowing such a valuable "clutch" hitter escape, but my feeling at the time was that Uribe was very unlikely to earn the sort of money he was asking, and I was fine with seeing him go to the dreaded Evil Satanic Dodgers. "Let them overpay him" was my thought.
Overpay him they did, and for their money LA has been getting...
.204 .264 .293 .557 ...four homers.
However, the club may as well have kept him since they instead went after free agent Miguel Tejada who has produced only slightly better than Uribe while costing more for 2011.
Tejada has contributed .242 .274 .333 .607 ..four homers. Tejada has been available for only 83 of the Giants 123 games, and collectively Giants shortstops have batted .211 .269 .302 .570 with five homers. Signing Orlando Cabrera hasn't been the solution, in his 16 games so far his bat has thundered at a .217 .222 .267 .489 clip.
In 2010, including Uribe, Giants shortstops batted .260 .318 .419 .736.
That dropoff, from a collective .736 OPS to a collective .570 OPS, has been a major factor in the decline of the Giants ability to score runs. It has hurt more than the loss of Posey. Last year the Giant catchers combined for:
.274 .333 .430 .764 with 22 home runs.
This year so far it is:
.242 .318 .353 .671 with nine home runs.
Firstbase has declined from an .815 OPS to .710
Secondbase from .734 to .671
Leftfield from .850 to .698
Centerfield from .738 to .659
Only at thirdbase (increase from .722 to .757) and rightfield (increase from .708 to .731) have the Giants improved.
The off season error on the part of the Giants was in thinking that because last year's offense became good enough as the season progressed, retaining all those players would mean that it would still be good enough in 2011. The team caught lightning in a bottle with the surprisingly strong performance from Huff, and the unexpected over achieving of Burrell and Ross. In short the strategy, such as it may be called a strategy, was to rely on being overly lucky once more.
That was a dumb strategy and it has yielded pretty much the results I was expecting from it.
The Giants opted to stand pat with their championship team with the exception of letting Juan Uribe walk as a free agent. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth about SF allowing such a valuable "clutch" hitter escape, but my feeling at the time was that Uribe was very unlikely to earn the sort of money he was asking, and I was fine with seeing him go to the dreaded Evil Satanic Dodgers. "Let them overpay him" was my thought.
Overpay him they did, and for their money LA has been getting...
.204 .264 .293 .557 ...four homers.
Uribe has been worth .4 fWAR
Aubrey Huff has been worth -0.9 fWAR
Miguel Tejada has been worth -0.1 fWAR
Giants have the worst offensive team in the NL. We know that.
Their position players have accounted for the second least fWAR with 11.6. The Pirates have 11.5
as a giants fan im finding it increasingly difficult to sit through these games. losing 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 is infuriating.
Braves 1, Giants 0
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