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the 99-04 mustang 4.6 SOHC 2V GT's only were making 260HP stock and running in the 14.2-14.5 in the 1/4 so a new 3.5 V6 accord with 271HP 6-speed manual tranny in stock form could match those numbers.
the old fox body 5.0 mustangs were high 14 seconds 14.8-14.9
the LS1 camaro SS/Z28 and Trans-Am was a low-mid 13 second cars stock
The problem is that they are front wheel drive.. Weight transfer my man... You cannot get under a 2.0 short time with a open diff fwd no matter who you are. Thats why its so very hard to get a decent time with a 4 door econo family car.. Oh and BTW- the old 2 valve 4.6 Mustangs were high 14 cars stock.. At best.. and another thing you forgot is that the v8 wil give you torque low down where the high revving Japanese motors are less torquie and have nothing down low..
I know the new family cars can run well, but grandma most certain;ly cannot get the times car magazines can. Like I said. I talk real life, not the internet. Go to a drag strip and watch and see for yourself.. None of the stock cars we speak of EVER run in the 13's .. NONE.. Im talking REAL LIFE..
So am I. Just not your smelly little end of NJ. I've been to Atco. Not impressed.
And if you haven't driven the cars in question, then I question your ability to tell how easy it is from idiot kids at Atco that you've watched. Trust me, it's not hard to get maximum effort from a new car.
I still fail to see how a V-6 and a small one at that can run 13's and 14's when not too long ago that was Z-28, SS, 5.0 and 4.6 territory with more horse and torque to boot, not to mention a V-8. Heck, I think my buddy's '03 Mach 1 with the 32V 4.6 DOHC and ram air will only hit high 12's to low 13's. Z-28's and SS Camaros with a LS1 350/ 5.7L can get into the 12's. I'm not buying it!
I'm not buying that you're too stupid to watch the vid Drover posted and understand the results of every magazine test ever. Hell, DRIVE one yourself! Do you know what GEARS are? You know that GEARS multiply torque, right?
I swear to god, you guys simply won't believe ANY proof given to you. this is common factual knowledge, repeated all the time. Hell, Frank can come down from his end of NJ, we can go test drive a car off the lot and I'll SHOW him.
It's already been proven, multiple times, with multiple cars, by multiple sources, all of which are easily available to the average citizen. I cannot for the life of me figure out why it's so hard for people to accept information that is right in front of them, especially information that is not in any way hard to believe.
This. Drover, i know we've had our differnces, but man, I'm with you 100% here. Right about now, we need this smiley:
Steve, in all deference to your knowledge and abilities, there are most certainly 8 second cars running on the street. I never said they were all street legal, just that they could be driven there and do routinely race. Just so you know, some of these guys go so far as to prep the road with VHT. Also, a lot of them do have the necessary safety gear as many of them at least test and tune at the track. I'm just glad Frank is in this thread as well, as we are from the same area and he knows what I'm talking about.
On the Accord end the fastest Accord in the country according to their forums, runs high 10's. Of course, the only thing that still makes it an Accord is the body. As for the rest, just head over to drag times and see what's posted. The fastest bone stock late model V6's are running 13.988 - 14.210 trapping at 100 - 102. A gutted, but otherwise stock one, hit 13.653 at 104. The nitrous fed V6's in otherwise stock trim are running 13.4's at 102. The fast Accords are all turbo'd 4 cylinders and even then they are barely breaking the low 13's / high 12's. Most of these guys are pulling 2.0 60's which is about the best you could hope for given the driveline.
The Altima's are doing a little better and stock 3.5's are running 13.851 - 14.164 at 100-102. Nitrous cars are running 13.380 at 106 and the supercharged ones are running 12.614 - 13.380 at 105-110. Again, these guys are running 2.0 60's, which is about as good as it gets. The guy who ran 12.614 in the SC'd one pulled a 1.8 60', so I'm guessing he had quite a bit of work outside the supercharger to get the car to hook like that.
***These numbers represent the best I could find. If we went for average, most are running 14.3's - 14.8's at 98.
Despite people laughing at my 100 horsepower / 1,000 pounds of weight comment. That is generally whats needed to drop a full second in the quarter mile when we are talking about stock cars. The faster you go, the more power/weight it takes at each level (it takes more effort to go from 11's to 10's then it does to go from 12's to 11's). So, each tenth = 10 whp = 100 pounds of weight. If you want to run one tenth faster, you either need to add 10 whp or lose 100 pounds of weight from the car. This is simplistic as other factors kick in, mainly the ability of the suspension and tires to deliver that power.
It's not easy to add that kind of power or remove that kind of weight from either an Accord or Altima. Even after that's been done, you still have to deal with the limitations of FWD and getting the car to hook, which becomes progressively harder as you add power. Then you start running into issues with diffs, axles and transmissions that simply weren't designed to handle that kind of power.
At the end of the day, the most modded and still street legal Accords and Altimas are still slower than a stock Camaro SS and 5.0 Mustang, which are both 12.8 - 12.9 at 108+ capable cars in bone stock trim off the showroom floor. So, I'll say it again, they can be fun toys for people, but they aren't race cars.
So am I. Just not your smelly little end of NJ. I've been to Atco. Not impressed.
And if you haven't driven the cars in question, then I question your ability to tell how easy it is from idiot kids at Atco that you've watched. Trust me, it's not hard to get maximum effort from a new car.
any you are from Maryland..?? ok, Cecil county raceways is better? loll You have a lot to learn..
You should get up from behind the screen and go see how slow these cars are in real life.. and btw- I do own 2 v6 Japanese family cars and they are indeed just that. Family haulers.. Not fast in the least bit..
any you are from Maryland..?? ok, Cecil county raceways is better? loll You have a lot to learn..
You should get up from behind the screen and go see how slow these cars are in real life..
I wonder if the rumor of Cecil being downhill are true...lol.
Atco, may be a little rough around the edges, but it is universally regarded as one of the fastest drag strips around.
my friend just sent me this.. 8 second Z06, ac, full weight, full exhaust, PUMP GAS, draf radials, heated seats and AC.. This is for our pro racer who don't believe such an car exists because after all the pro stockers are in the 7's, how can a street car be almost as fast???
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Do you know what GEARS are? You know that GEARS multiply torque, right? 
and fast. Ill be there in 2 weeks for a race..
