Death of Rayshard Brooks (Atlanta: warehouse, assault, metro area)

[ronricks]

Here was Paul Howard two weeks ago:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxKN...ature=youtu.be


Yesterday he contradicted himself and said the exact opposite. This coupled with the lying about Officer Brosnan testifying for the prosecution is really bizarre. Lot of national media is pushing back on what Howard said yesterday at the press conference because like many of us they have seen the whole video and know many things he said were outright lies. Why would a DA do this in such a high profile case? It isn't like we don't have the video here and know what did and did not happen. He clearly tried to beat the GBI to the punch with his version of what happened but he has to know the GBI report will be available to any Grand Jury or Jury and based on time alone to compile it will likely be far more thorough than his investigation. Like Dr Henry Lee famously said during the OJ Simpson trial "There's something wrong here"

[suzy_q2010]

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/ful...HOOPT6C36I644/

"Channel 2 and AJC reporters discovered that the city of Atlanta sent $250,000 to the district attorney’s office for crime prevention programs and almost 80 percent of that went into Howard’s paycheck.

Howard in May called the issue an 'administrative matter' and said he expects to be exonerated.

'He does what is best for him and what the district attorney should do is what’s for the people. We see that in you stealing $195,000 from black and brown children,' Willis said.

Willis also joined the police chief in accusing Howard of moving too quickly to charge six Atlanta police officers with excessive force during a weekend of protests in May."

[markjames68]

Originally Posted by Gulch

KLB can't fire him. Voters can in the August runoff though.

"Cutting him loose" doesn't necessarily mean firing him. What it can mean is not supporting him publicly and working against him privately.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Gulch

KLB can't fire him. Voters can in the August runoff though.

Paul Howard is a Fulton County employee not a city of Atlanta employee. Despite that it is clear that Howard and Bottoms are in collusion on this case and are tied at the hip. It's too late for Bottoms to try and distance herself from Howard at this point it wouldn't make any sense they are both too far dug in at this point.

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Yesterday he contradicted himself and said the exact opposite. This coupled with the lying about Officer Brosnan testifying for the prosecution is really bizarre. Lot of national media is pushing back on what Howard said yesterday at the press conference because like many of us they have seen the whole video and know many things he said were outright lies. Why would a DA do this in such a high profile case? It isn't like we don't have the video here and know what did and did not happen. He clearly tried to beat the GBI to the punch with his version of what happened but he has to know the GBI report will be available to any Grand Jury or Jury and based on time alone to compile it will likely be far more thorough than his investigation. Like Dr Henry Lee famously said during the OJ Simpson trial "There's something wrong here"

Perhaps you missed it, but yesterday Howard said that once Brooks fired the taser, it was out of power and needed to be recharged before firing again. If the officers can't keep track of such a simple detail, what does it say about their ability to use good judgment with deadly weapons?

[As Above So Below...]

The police officer who fired the shots should be charged with a crime. Charging him with murder is a huge mistake. If a jury is following the letter of the charge, there is no way he should be convicted. They should have charged him with manslaughter.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by toll_booth

Perhaps you missed it, but yesterday Howard said that once Brooks fired the taser, it was out of power and needed to be recharged before firing again. If the officers can't keep track of such a simple detail, what does it say about their ability to use good judgment with deadly weapons?

Many police officers have spoken about this on tv already. The fact is Brooks fired the Taser which is a deadly weapon at the officer. You know what happened next because of that. Howard's mental gymnastics don't somehow cancel that out. Brooks pointed and used a deadly weapon (Howard's own words) against a police officer.

[cttransplant85]

Felony murder is reserved for the worst types of murders. People who are in the act or have just committed another felony. This guy was beaten up by the suspect, had his own taser deployed against him, he couldn’t tell if that was a taser or a gun it’s a split second he has to make a decision, he performed CPR immediately after. This is insanity. If you are not allowed to use a gun in this situation NO ONE will be a police officer.

If this had been a white suspect and a black police officer no one would question the decision.

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Many police officers have spoken about this on tv already. The fact is Brooks fired the Taser which is a deadly weapon at the officer. You know what happened next because of that. Howard's mental gymnastics don't somehow cancel that out. Brooks pointed and used a deadly weapon (Howard's own words) against a police officer.

And after Brooks fired that taser, in a manner that had little chance of hitting the officers anyway, he was effectively out of ammo. Yet Rolfe acted as if Brooks was a deadly threat after he fired the taser.

Seems that Brooks was not the only man on the scene that night who had no clue about the basics of tasers. Makes you wonder if all cops should be carrying them, let alone guns.

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by cttransplant85

Felony murder is reserved for the worst types of murders. People who are in the act or have just committed another felony. This guy was beaten up by the suspect,

Absolutely false.

had his own taser deployed against him, he couldn’t tell if that was a taser or a gun

WHAT?

The crackling sound of a taser is unmistakably distinct from the "pop pop pop" of a semiautomatic pistol. There is no way that someone could confuse the two. Furthermore, once a taser is fired, you can actually see the wires and the electrodes.

it’s a split second he has to make a decision, he performed CPR immediately after.

False.

This is insanity. If you are not allowed to use a gun in this situation NO ONE will be a police officer.

That does not bode well for the kind of people who want to be a police officer. At all. Maybe you didn't mean it that way?

If this had been a white suspect and a black police officer no one would question the decision.