HIV in Atlanta...interesting news (Ideal: exemption, trains, office)

[Staysean23]

HIV is a homosexual disease now? So if there was no gay people this diseases wouldnt exist? And women would never get it... Lol

Maybe u should read this.... http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/7-Myt...ontracting-HIV

[Staysean23]

Originally Posted by texx

Very interesting thread. What women don't understand about men sexuality is that it is pure "feeling" nothing more or less. This is why men can happily have sex with women they are not even attracted to because the feeling is all the same. This is also why many DL brothers claim they are not gay because they are not "attracted" to the men in the same way as women, they just want the "feeling". This translates to the "homosexual" behavior because it is a "feeling". I believe many men are attracted to "homosexual" behavior because either they have had too many women(which is why many are THE SAME alpha MALES BLACK WOMEN LOVE SO MUCH) and they get bored, have watched too much porn, or that gay men are easy to lay and their minds have been perverted as a result. Many of these men were not "gay" into well into their adulthoods and because of these circumstances indulge in this behavior-look at the prison system where they say 20% of the men have been raped; all about that feeling-NOT attaction.
Many people don't agree but I personally believe oral/anal sex in heterosexual relationships is homosexual/bisexual behavior and I will not do it with my wife for this reason; all I need is the vagina and nothing else. Just my two cents.

U are so un informed

[Staysean23]

Originally Posted by mrdkb

Sum's it up!!

That doesnt sum it up... Ignorance is bliss stop going by what u think it is verses what facts are.. Please do a quick good research on this and u will be surprised that DL men are not the reason for women getting virus.

[mrdkb]

Originally Posted by Staysean23

That doesnt sum it up... Ignorance is bliss stop going by what u think it is verses what facts are.. Please do a quick good research on this and u will be surprised that DL men are not the reason for women getting virus.

DL or gay men do not admit they ar gay on these surveys. As mentioned, I have very good 44 year friend who's gay and has that gay anonymous status. Don't ask, don't tell. They do not tell.

BTW - are you gay? Why are you refuting what other's are saying? What I am saying isn't coming from me but black gay men.

[mrdkb]

Originally Posted by Staysean23

HIV is a homosexual disease now? So if there was no gay people this diseases wouldnt exist? And women would never get it... Lol

Maybe u should read this.... 7 Myths About Contracting HIV - Dr. LaShonda Spencer - Oprah.com

You use an Oprah link to convince us. HA!!! Black gay men (like Donnie McClurkin, Luther Vandross, Arsenio Hall, Tonex, Eddie Murphy, Johnny Gill) have sex with women too. They even marry them. My really good friend. My nephew. My cousin. 2 black males in a church I used to go to in NY. (One is now divorced after 2 years. He's back into homosexual activity). Several gay associates of my good freind. When I was at Stony Brook - at least 6 guys I knew - and were popular - were dating girls. All six also sleep with men. 3 hit on me..very strong advances. I was like WTF.

What do you not understand? BTW, when I confronted 2 of the gay guys at Stony Brokk they got very angry. When I began to question my good friend (over 16 yrs friends) he got defensive. He is 44 years old and still considers marriage to a women an option..yet he sleeps with men. And guess what - a really good friend of his is married, has a son, and is gay. Same with my nephew.

You can hand-out Oprah links all you want, but I am speaking from real life experience. Anonymous black gay men that sleep with black women is a problem. And they will not admit they are gay. Period!!!!

OH and another. A guy that work's at the post office in Cobb County. He works with my brother-in-law. He is married. He has sleep with a few women in the post office, yet told my brother-in-law that every so often he needs a little male genital (censoring the word he used). My brother-in-law thought he was joking. He was not. My brother-in-law told him he was gay. He said he was not. He was just freaky. True story.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by mrdkb

You use an Oprah link to convince us. HA!!! Black gay men (like Donnie McClurkin, Luther Vandross, Arsenio Hall, Tonex, Eddie Murphy, Johnny Gill) have sex with women too. They even marry them. My really good friend. My nephew. My cousin. 2 black males in a church I used to go to in NY. (One is now divorced after 2 years. He's back into homosexual activity). Several gay associates of my good freind. When I was at Stony Brook - at least 6 guys I knew - and were popular - were dating girls. All six also sleep with men. 3 hit on me..very strong advances. I was like WTF.

What do you not understand? BTW, when I confronted 2 of the gay guys at Stony Brokk they got very angry. When I began to question my good friend (over 16 yrs friends) he got defensive. He is 44 years old and still considers marriage to a women an option..yet he sleeps with men. And guess what - a really good friend of his is married, has a son, and is gay. Same with my nephew.

You can hand-out Oprah links all you want, but I am speaking from real life experience. Anonymous black gay men that sleep with black women is a problem. And they will not admit they are gay. Period!!!!

OH and another. A guy that work's at the post office in Cobb County. He works with my brother-in-law. He is married. He has sleep with a few women in the post office, yet told my brother-in-law that every so often he needs a little male genital (censoring the word he used). My brother-in-law thought he was joking. He was not. My brother-in-law told him he was gay. He said he was not. He was just freaky. True story.

People, there IS such a thing as being bisexual. I'm pretty sure they won't admit that either, but I just don't get why people don't acknowledge the existence of bisexuality. The whole "You a man and you have sex with men, you gay" sentiment is pretty ignorant to me.

[RoslynHolcomb]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

People, there IS such a thing as being bisexual. I'm pretty sure they won't admit that either, but I just don't get why people don't acknowledge the existence of bisexuality. The whole "You a man and you have sex with men, you gay" sentiment is pretty ignorant to me.

I don't think the behavior mrdkb is informed by bisexuality. Bisexual people have the ability to be monogamous with whatever gender they happen to be in a relationship with. I've encountered the type of men he's talking about. In sociology we refer to them as MSM (Men Sexing Men) because they reject the gay label. Essentially they believed that as long as they didn't desire a romantic relationship with men they weren't gay. They went to men for sexual gratification, but had their emotional needs met by women. It's a sticky wicket to say the least because whether gay, bisexual or MSM black men are derply isolated from the gay community because of racism. Many of them fel that being honest about their orientation would also isolate them from the black community which as we know is deeply puritanical and church oriented as it pertains to sexuality. MSMs are particularly lethal because they are so nihilistic. There is at the core of their behavior a level of self loathing that is pretty much suicidal. They don't take precautions because they don't care if they live or die. I would hesitate to call the behavior sociopathic, but it comes pretty close.

All the female clients I had with HIV contracted it in what they thought were monogamous relationships. Some of the men were simultaneously sleeping with other men, but many were not. Some were unknowingly positive from previous M/M encounters that they didn't disclose to their partners. Some had used needle drugs, but oddly enough they're not particularly popular with black people. All my clients got it from a man who had sex with another man, or had been incarcerated. The high incarceration rate amongst black males is, IMO, a much bigger issue than MSM. We are all aware of the potential for rape in prison, all comics have a joke about it in their repertoire. Unfortunately, this is no joking matter and is quite devastating. Most men regardless of orientation are not willing to acknowledge this type of assault. Ideally prisons would have testing, but there's no guarantee that the men would disclose. I suppose they could use the public health protocol employed in regard to other STDs, but I'm not sure that the public will is there to do this. After all, it's just black women, and we all know how much society is concerned about this cohort.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by RoslynHolcomb

IAll my clients got it from a man who had sex with another man, or had been incarcerated. The high incarceration rate amongst black males is, IMO, a much bigger issue than MSM. We are all aware of the potential for rape in prison, all comics have a joke about it in their repertoire. Unfortunately, this is no joking matter and is quite devastating. Most men regardless of orientation are not willing to acknowledge this type of assault. Ideally prisons would have testing, but there's no guarantee that the men would disclose. I suppose they could use the public health protocol employed in regard to other STDs, but I'm not sure that the public will is there to do this. After all, it's just black women, and we all know how much society is concerned about this cohort.

Good point.

[Onthemove2014]

Originally Posted by texx

Very interesting thread. What women don't understand about men sexuality is that it is pure "feeling" nothing more or less. This is why men can happily have sex with women they are not even attracted to because the feeling is all the same. This is also why many DL brothers claim they are not gay because they are not "attracted" to the men in the same way as women, they just want the "feeling". This translates to the "homosexual" behavior because it is a "feeling". I believe many men are attracted to "homosexual" behavior because either they have had too many women(which is why many are THE SAME alpha MALES BLACK WOMEN LOVE SO MUCH) and they get bored, have watched too much porn, or that gay men are easy to lay and their minds have been perverted as a result. Many of these men were not "gay" into well into their adulthoods and because of these circumstances indulge in this behavior-look at the prison system where they say 20% of the men have been raped; all about that feeling-NOT attaction.
Many people don't agree but I personally believe oral/anal sex in heterosexual relationships is homosexual/bisexual behavior and I will not do it with my wife for this reason; all I need is the vagina and nothing else. Just my two cents.

If you like the "feeling" or man's butt over vagina then you are gay and if you like them both you are bisexual. Comparing it to prison where there are no women around is a strawman.

[Onthemove2014]

Originally Posted by RoslynHolcomb

. All my clients got it from a man who had sex with another man, or had been incarcerated. The high incarceration rate amongst black males is, IMO, a much bigger issue than MSM. We are all aware of the potential for rape in prison, all comics have a joke about it in their repertoire. Unfortunately, this is no joking matter and is quite devastating. Most men regardless of orientation are not willing to acknowledge this type of assault. Ideally prisons would have testing, but there's no guarantee that the men would disclose.