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Old 03-12-2024, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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Is that 9mm? I forgot to mention the jams, the Glock jammed twice in one session! I’ll see if that’s one of the guns available for rent this Friday.
No it’s a .380 and size wise it’s larger than a .22, but a little smaller than a 9mm. Check out some of the videos on the Ruger Security .380 on YouTube. It’s really a nice little gun. Not too heavy, easy to load, not much recoil and it holds a good amount of ammunition. I paid less than $300.00 for mine.
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:09 PM
 
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An LEO friend of mine told me a .22 is the worst gun to be shot with, because the bullet doesn't exit. It bounces around in your body, hitting more than one organ. It doesn't have the stopping power of a bigger caliber, but if you hit the torso, the guy is eventually going to die.
Eventually, after he's stabbed you a dozen times, before staggering out the back door and dying on the patio

In a defense situation, you don't want eventually. You want ASAP
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:10 PM
 
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Consider an S&W EZ in .380. Wifey had difficulty with racking but the EZ version was ok.

Hornady critical duty ammo works well in .380
Thanks I’ll add it to the list to look into thanks!
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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Eventually, after he's stabbed you a dozen times, before staggering out the back door

In a defense situation, you don't want eventually. You want ASAP

Didn't say I owned one
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:12 PM
 
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No it’s a .380 and size wise it’s larger than a .22, but a little smaller than a 9mm. Check out some of the videos on the Ruger Security .380 on YouTube. It’s really a nice little gun. Not too heavy, easy to load, not much recoil and it holds a good amount of ammunition. I paid less than $300.00 for mine.
I wonder why the instructor didn’t mention .380? The lessons are at a gun shop/range, too.
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:13 PM
 
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Eventually, after he's stabbed you a dozen times, before falling on top of your already lifeless body.

In a defense situation, you don't want eventually. You want ASAP
.22 without the power of a .223 is a poor man stopper unless used execution style .

it isn’t a wound that stops a bad guy . it’s the powerful disruption to the nervous system by a powerful round staying contained within the body dissipating its energy .

in combat training we have the 20 foot rule .

that means anyone within 20 feet even if shot in the heart could live long enough to cover 20 ft and stab or hack you to death .

we we were taught to aim for the hip area as shattering the hip makes an attack end .

odds of doing that with a 22 are slim without a lucky shot. a 22 is just to iffy for self defense
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:14 PM
 
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Failure to eject (stovepipe)? Jams could be caused by a number of things from dirty gun, low quality ammo, poor shooter technique. Did the instructor mention anything about you "limp wristing? You can inadvertently cause jams by not having a firm grip on the pistol which is not uncommon with a new shooter.



Akin to an old wives tale
She is big on grip, and I needed correction at times but she was next to me when it jammed and didn’t say anything about my grip, she just said sometimes they jam. But I’d hate for it to jam when I really needed it.
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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Semiautos by design have to have a large grip to accommodate the magazine.

Revolvers have many more grip size and shape options to choose from that might fit your hands better. What might help is to go where grips are sold and try a few in your hands. Grips made from wood or rubber... With finger "grooves" or without them... larger or smaller. Custom grips can be made to fit you. Way more options.

For home defense, I'd recommend a mid size (4-6 inch) target revolver like a Smith&Wesson Model 19 in .357 caliber for it's weight, options in load power, and options in grip size. This was the first gun my dad bought for me as a young adult, and is still my favorite 36 years later. It is a bit too big for concealed carry, but good for home defense and target shooting as comfortably as you can. Smaller and lighter guns will kick more and be harder to control your targeting with when shooting. In this, the bigger the better, within reason. And important for your comfort, a .357 can shoot .38 caliber bullets which have plenty of stopping power but less kick than .357 magnums, if you have trouble with more powerful loads, especially when practicing.

A long day of shooting would be fatiguing on thumbs with any powerful gun, obviously this will not be as much of a concern in an actual defense situation where you only need to fire 6. Many people practice with .38s for comfort and cost savings, but load it with .357 for defense.
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:19 PM
 
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I don't seem to be strong enough to slide a hand gun. A revolver is easier for me. And I'm getting my Mom's 16gauge shot gun. Dad has some revolvers, I need to practice with. He is 95 and has a ton of guns and is a custom knife maker. I do want a couple of guns,my brother will get the rest and I will get a safe. He has 2. I'll try sliding a hand gun, to see if I can do it quickly. I'm 71 F. Not as strong as I was, due to rotator cuff complicated surgery, full range on motion but not good on strength.
I didn’t have too many problems with the slide, except for keeping my other hand where the instructor wanted it to be while I was doing it. The bigger issue was loading the magazine. But the revolver was definitely easier. Are there drawbacks to revolver aside from it holding less bullets and not being semiautomatic?
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Old 03-12-2024, 12:20 PM
 
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for someone who doesn’t train , a revolver is hard to beat for simplicity and lack of jams
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