[Threestep2]

Originally Posted by dozerbear

Welcome to the club. We in the state of Washington got our first big influx of "Californication" almost 40 years ago. And they did the same things here, even back in the mid 1980s. I have met a few Californians who have moved here who are exceptional people, but (at least in my experience) they are very much the exception to the rule.

We were in your area in the 80s and saw it. My best friend of many years is Californian but marches to her own drum.

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by Threestep2

Next source - Wikki?

LOL. Your snark. Love it. Perhaps you can come up with a link yourself?

From a 2016 Daily Oklahoman article.

Neighboring states perennially provide the lion's share of new Sooners. But for the third consecutive year, it was California at the No. 3 spot, trailing Texas and Kansas. According to the census, 7,753 people left California for Oklahoma.

I assume that was for 2015.

So the Stacker site info isn't too far off that figure.

[Threestep2]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

LOL. Your snark. Love it.

From a 2016 Daily Oklahoman article.



I assume that was for 2015.

Just in case Oklahoma has missed it - it is 2021. For your Saturday entertainment - immigrant and to OK by ways of AL/GA/WA/MD/VA/DC/TX and planning to stay according to SO.

[cirrusly]

Originally Posted by JoeBravo

I wanted to know because I'm looking to looking to move to either Oklahoma or Northeast Texas.

Oklahoma is a discount Texas with way less Californians. Also property taxes won’t destroy you.

[k374]

Californians are leaving CA not because it's a choice... they are literally being priced out of living there because the cost of living there has become absurd, that is the only way I can describe it. More and more people are leaving because they just can't manage the costs anymore.

Two types of people now live in CA - the very poor, because CA is a socialist state that hands out a lot of freebies to the poor so the poor love it there, and the uber rich who don't care about the costs because it makes no difference to them if they have millions in the bank. Everyone else is leaving in droves.

[Threestep2]

Originally Posted by k374

Californians are leaving CA not because it's a choice... they are literally being priced out of living there because the cost of living there has become absurd, that is the only way I can describe it. More and more people are leaving because they just can't manage the costs anymore.

Two types of people now live in CA - the very poor, because CA is a socialist state that hands out a lot of freebies to the poor so the poor love it there, and the uber rich who don't care about the costs because it makes no difference to them if they have millions in the bank. Everyone else is leaving in droves.

Impose an exit tax such as for some immigration visas when leaving.

[Exaday]

Originally Posted by Threestep2

Conservative
Cali weather alone is not a draw for me. We can move with "the works" but who wants to deal with "the rest of the story". In OK I can leave the car unlocked, ask a neighbor to look in on the furries and it is not as cheap as everyone makes it out to be.

Education
The System. This is one of those Americanisms I never caught on to. Parents rely on The System. Well, that does not work anywhere we lived and that was three continents so far.

Californians
In my neighborhood they are starting to multiply like the proverbial rabbits trying to educate everyone on their shortcomings and what is not to their liking in Oklahoma.

I don't know why it never occurs to people that perhaps many are moving away to escape liberal politics.

There are also many more republicans in just southern California than there are people in all of Oklahoma.

That being said, they tend to want to move to places and not really adapt. The people in California who vote for the liberal stuff don't actually like the laws that result from their voting choices. It's strange. They don't seem to make the connection.

Partly because they myopically vote for social reasons without actually thinking about the policies

In Nevada where I live, they often refuse to change their license plates because Nevada plates are higher. They don't pitch in, they want your state to become more like the state they fled from and for you to foot the bill..

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by k374

Californians are leaving CA not because it's a choice... they are literally being priced out of living there because the cost of living there has become absurd, that is the only way I can describe it. More and more people are leaving because they just can't manage the costs anymore.

Two types of people now live in CA - the very poor, because CA is a socialist state that hands out a lot of freebies to the poor so the poor love it there, and the uber rich who don't care about the costs because it makes no difference to them if they have millions in the bank. Everyone else is leaving in droves.

Regardless of why they are leaving the question is whether there are a lot of them coming to Oklahoma. According to the link I posted (which Threestep thinks is bogus) there are about 7-8K people moving to Oklahoma from California. I don't know if that constitutes "a lot" or not.

For instance here is 2019 Data from the Idaho Statesman...

Here’s what the interstate migration data for 2019 show about the ins and outs of California population:

Big moves: Texas drew 82,235 Golden Staters. (Note that this is almost identical to the number the Stacker site provided). Next was Arizona at 59,713; then Nevada at 47,322; Washington at 46,791; and Oregon at 37,927. Idaho ranked 11th, with 17,772.

So in the grand scheme of things it doesn't appear that Oklahoma is getting a lot of California although 7-8000 isn't an insignificant number.

(Other data indicates that Idaho is now up to 21K Californians moving there in 2020 so it appears these numbers are climbing).

[Threestep2]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

Regardless of why they are leaving the question is whether there are a lot of them coming to Oklahoma. According to the link I posted (which Threestep thinks is bogus) there are about 7-8K people moving to Oklahoma from California. I don't know if that constitutes "a lot" or not.

For instance here is 2019 Data from the Idaho Statesman...



So in the grand scheme of things it doesn't appear that Oklahoma is getting a lot of California although 7-8000 isn't an insignificant number.

(Other data indicates that Idaho is now up to 21K Californians moving there in 2020 so it appears these numbers are climbing).

Look at what is happening in Idaho. Maybe we should move to Cali. It is getting empty over there.

[janellen]

There's actually two Californias...western/coastal = Very liberal (crazy liberal), and eastern California = conservative. Most of the Californians moving to Oklahoma are the latter...a literal dust bowl in reverse so to speak. These folks are looking for like minded people to live near, it's not simply cost of living. The cost of living in my town in Tulare County is less than McAlester's. Bakersfield is so conservative it makes Tulsa look like San Francisco...ok, not really but....