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Take a break from the nudity stuff and get down to earth. Who cares about what Europeans do on their beaches? Walk away, you say. Do you really believe that the young ones will walk away? I believe that nudists are not somehting we should tolerate although some cities and towns in the USA do. SO if someone wants to believe it is good then move to that city..Move to Europe... How can you even believe the things your write?
Does any ever think about what they are saying before they post? Maybe and maybe not. It may behove some to know that there is pleasure of demonic presence that things like this very subject brings out the bad in a lot of people.
If I had a child I would be horrified for them to see a person half dressed. Everyone has an opinion on this subject but sometimes this subject is not for discussion, including the moderators views. Thank you.
Demonic presence!?!?!???? Geez dude! Reel it in a few yards! Your post took a big fail when you mentioned that one! It's social repression that leads to abberrant behavior. Not freedom.
What is wonderful in Europe and some parts of this country is people have the freedom to take off their close at the beach if they like. And those that are offended by it, can walk away, and they don't have to be around nudist. The human body is natural thing (we come out naked in this world) and we shouldn't be ashamed to show it. Being a nudist shouldn't be looked as an immoral/bad thing as there is nothing wrong with the human body. I wish we would not objectify the human body as much as we do. Instead I wish would celebrate the human body like Europeans.
Thank you for your insight ; Ill respond in order of your points :
1. There is no 'freedom' involved when doing something negates common decency, when someone has to suppress their moral conscience to do it, when someone has to allow increased desensitization to take place so they can continue to do something deviant in public , and when succeeding generations are given a poor example of self respect, dignity, and honor . A better word is 'enslavement' to degradation thru expression.
2. Walking away/not taking a stand against immoral and indecent acts is akin to being apathetic toward that which is wrong to do in public. People should not be called to tolerance (apathy) so a wrong in public can continue to be perpetuated , promoted and encouraged. Going nude should be reserved for a private setting such as ones Jaccuzi or at a distant pond in the mountains where it is not made public if it has to be done outdoors.
3. We come out naked from the womb, but soon after we are dressed in (please fill in the blanks) >>> _ _ o t _ _ n g . When we get older and our sexual parts begin to take larger and more distinct form...we (please fill in the blanks) >>> _ o v _ _ them up for our dignity, self-respect , and respect for others, which provides for our physical and emotional safebeing. When we come out of the womb, you are correct....we are not ashamed to show it.
4. There is indeed nothing wrong with the human body, except when it crosses the line of indecency and/or exploitation and/or exhibitionary behaviour. Then it becomes unhealthy and a real possibility of danger to oneself. We should be concerned for our wellbeing and not only do as we feel like doing .
5. If we shouldnt objectify the human body , then we should treat it with respect , dignity, and honor by not giving the general public a chance to objectify it and lust over its intimate parts.
6. In America, we DO 'celebrate' the human body like Europeans do ; thats why in the USA 1 in 4 women sometime in thier life will be sexually assaulted, why there are 33 circulating STD's shared amongst some 40,000,000 adults of which 2 are fatal, some cause lifelong sterility, with most being permanent for life .... and why we need facilities that are willing to suck unborn developing American babies into a nearby sink at the rate of 4,000 daily so the celebration of sexual hedonism can continue to be the Nations favorite pastime. The statistics prove that we go out of our way to celebrate and idolize the human body. Perhaps we need to put a cap on how much we celebrate it (?) .
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Sorry everyone..RVlover is dead on with his way of thinking. Props to you RVlover
If by "dead on" you mean, "Victorian era" then yes.
The thought process is antiquated, and thankfully, held mostly and in greatest proportion amongst the old whom we HOPE do not make their way to the nude beach for ANY reason. To see OR be seen!
It's no secret that the "conservative" states of this nation tend to have higher overall incidences of pornography consumption, higher teen pregnancy rates, and higher divorce rates. Mystifying sex, and making it taboo leads to more irresponsible indulgences in same.
Everyone is entitled to their views, even I. To answer your question, if the "young ones" want to stay and watch that is their option. They also have the option to walk away. You may be horrified if you had a child that saw a half dressed person, but many people in this country wouldn't be horrified. I remember as a child walking in a park with my parents in Europe. Haulover is a great beach, many people love it, I have good friend that goes there, he loves it. He's a normal guy, not creepy.
It is obvious that there is a point to be made when it comes to nudity.
Nudity is OK and is natural if one is alone or with a spouse behind closed doors. Indecent exposure is what it is when you go on a for fun "regular" beach, but it is unfortunate that the laws allow nudity on a what!
I do know that the Miami Dade Police accept nudity as perscribed by Florida law because some consider it not "in a vulgar or indecent manner" to expose themselves. The Florida Statute 800.03 does allow for nudity on this beach. This type of behavior does occur but does it mean it is of good taste and of a normal person's behaviour? Lewd or lascivious behaviour is suppose to be absent on SFFB but I do not think that is why people attend these corrupt places. Exhibitionism is what really occurs.
I wonder what type of behaviour Miami-Dade County will continue to permit? We should all try to get with a good program that our children would find fun and happiness. This type of indecent action shold really be kept for the indoors..
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If by "dead on" you mean, "Victorian era" then yes.
The thought process is antiquated, and thankfully, held mostly and in greatest proportion amongst the old whom we HOPE do not make their way to the nude beach for ANY reason. To see OR be seen!
It's no secret that the "conservative" states of this nation tend to have higher overall incidences of pornography consumption, higher teen pregnancy rates, and higher divorce rates. Mystifying sex, and making it taboo leads to more irresponsible indulgences in same.
I agree with this. I also don't like how RVLover seems to shift all the blame on women. Are men too dumb to make the right choices today? Morality may have been a trait that felt present in society back before the 1960s, but wasn't that because women were generally confined to the home. Out of sight, out of mind...
I agree with this. I also don't like how RVLover seems to shift all the blame on women. Are men too dumb to make the right choices today? Morality may have been a trait that felt present in society back before the 1960s, but wasn't that because women were generally confined to the home. Out of sight, out of mind...
I dont shift all the blame on women ; I did make mention that 1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted sometime in their life....and those assaults will be made by Men. I blame Men the same as Women for allowing themselves to be willfully duped by an out of control Mega Media to the point that they dont mind suppressing thier moral conscience. However, it is the Woman that sets the Bar on how much men can get away with ; historically, Men will take the lead from women depending on how much they are willing to make men be gentlemen or not . If women dont care about assuming this level of responsibility in society, then most Men are going to view women in a dissending way and oftentimes take liberty with them . If women are so brazen as to parade around without proper clothing, then Men will get the idea that they are easy to obtain illicit sex from -- it matters not if the woman is single or married. Todays boys are being groomed by sexual stimuli in the media and outside the home , to become tomorrows Sexual Carnivores and perhaps worse.
Women need to abandon the pop-Feminist approach to life which has short-changed women because it actually creates a more unsafe environment for them...and instead, return to self respect so Men will be forced to respect them back. If you arent willing, then I hope you wont become the 1 in 4 current statistic of getting sexually assaulted sometime in your life --- Going nude in public is increasing your chances. , but its your decision.
I know RV sounds conservative, but that doesn't mean that he is 100% wrong. These ideas of gender equality, self expression and freedom of the body are like socialism, good in theory but bad in practice.
Women should be careful out there. Nature wasn't very kind to us. Our main disadvantage is our physical strength. Even if there is security at the beach, they can follow you to the parking lot, get your address etc. The fact that these women are "expressing" themselves might send the wrong signals to some sick minds out there. Why is it that so many serial killers and rapists target prostitutes? Because in their sick mind they rationalize that these women were looking for it. Were they? Of course not, acts of violence are never justifiable, but you should try to avoid risky situations because you can control your actions but not the consequences of your actions.
The STDs problem is true too. HIV is a huge problem in S Florida and by the way, women are 8 times more likely to get infected than straight men. Thank mother nature again for the wonderful gift.
Morals, decency for me it's up to the individual, but when your actions affect your personal safety and well being, in my opinion people need to choose the wisest decision. A careless decision can make your life a living hell
Take a break from the nudity stuff and get down to earth. Who cares about what Europeans do on their beaches? Walk away, you say. Do you really believe that the young ones will walk away? I believe that nudists are not somehting we should tolerate although some cities and towns in the USA do. SO if someone wants to believe it is good then move to that city..Move to Europe... How can you even believe the things your write?
Does any ever think about what they are saying before they post? Maybe and maybe not. It may behove some to know that there is pleasure of demonic presence that things like this very subject brings out the bad in a lot of people.
If I had a child I would be horrified for them to see a person half dressed. Everyone has an opinion on this subject but sometimes this subject is not for discussion, including the moderators views. Thank you.
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We have seven nude/textile beaches and two totally nude/Gay Nude Beach, now we also have a rather impopular law that allows anyone to bathe strip naked in any beach if he/she wishes to do so.
I find disgusting having to bathe with nudists around, one thing is to have a stunning 20 year old girl totally nude, but most nudist are people well over 50, not a nice sight. You also have kids by and I don't think it's good for them.
We also have many girls in topless with string tangas, they don't leave much for your imagination. People end up so horny that it grows tiresome.
So here "normal people", people with families or that just want to bathe not having a constant erection (excuse me!!!) are confined to rocky beaches or far apart beaches.
I think that it's better the system you have there, normal and nude beaches.
Unfortunately here, Spain, we go from one extreme to the other, 50 years ago priests were chasing girls with bikinis, 40 years ago priests became peeping toms and now priests and nuns (the few ones left) are nudists.
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I see how some people are offended by the nude beaches, but if they are offended by it they can walk away. We shouldn't out law something just because we disagree with it. How would you like it if someone disagreed with something you do/did and had it banned because they didn't like it. You wouldn't like it. As long as they are not harming anyone it should be allowed. Haulover is a great beach, many people love it, I have good friend that goes there, he loves it. He's a normal guy, not creepy.
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You've never been in a mixed Textile/Nude Beach in Europe.
When you have a nice, young girl totally nude, hundreds of old lechers march endlessly in front of her. Most nude people are old hags with their skin dangling, old women with breasts arriving to their waists.
It's OK to have isolated nude beaches, or Nude Beaches for Beautiful People, just like Ibiza or Santorini, but not regular beaches. Not nice for other people.
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