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Old 04-24-2024, 08:25 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I won't pay more for organic. I wash produce thoroughly, spin my lettuce, and am careful about cross-contamination.

Being in my 60s, I doubt there is any health benefit to it. I'll die of a heart attack or stroke long before pesticides have any effect on me.
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Old 04-25-2024, 07:40 AM
 
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I won't pay more for organic. I wash produce thoroughly, spin my lettuce, and am careful about cross-contamination.

Being in my 60s, I doubt there is any health benefit to it. I'll die of a heart attack or stroke long before pesticides have any effect on me.
The thing is this.. most of the minute traces of pesticides and all of the other toxic sources in our environment are cumulative.

It's like a fish living in the Great Lakes. A small fish is edible because the levels of mercury and other toxins are very very low because it's young and not enough time has passed to accumulate high levels. On the other hand an old huge Lake Trout which is 50 yrs old is not edible because it's accumulated levels of mercury and dioxin is high in its fat and tissues.

I do understand why people would buy certain organic produce if they can afford it.

The problem is that food is already quite expensive, so tacking on the organic premium is oftentimes prohibitive.
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Old 04-25-2024, 06:29 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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you asked:What do you all think?

It's great there are choices for food we buy.
I buy some organic veggies, not all, don't have a thought-out plan.
Thinking about going 100% organic, pesticide is my reason, somehow not afraid of staph.
Would not be that expensive.
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Old 04-26-2024, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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you asked:What do you all think?

It's great there are choices for food we buy.
I buy some organic veggies, not all, don't have a thought-out plan.
Thinking about going 100% organic, pesticide is my reason, somehow not afraid of staph.
Would not be that expensive.
I am like you - I tend to favor organic, but am not strict about that and also weigh e.g. price as well. I don't know why it would be different, but it seems like the organic premium on packaged foods is less than it is on fresh, whole foods.
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Old 04-26-2024, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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We grow most of our leafy greens like kale, cabbage, collards, mixed salad greens etc. We can and freeze a lot for year round use, so in essence organic. Greens are often found on the dirty dozen list for pesticides, so we are glad to grow them.

Bugs? Bacteria? If we have bugs on our garden produce we don't fret nor apply pesticides. As far as we're concerned some bug damage just shows it's fit to eat, lol. Bacteria? Other than washing we do nothing out of the ordinary. That falls into the category of "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger", lol.


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Old 04-27-2024, 06:51 PM
 
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We grow most of our leafy greens like kale, cabbage, collards, mixed salad greens etc. We can and freeze a lot for year round use, so in essence organic. Greens are often found on the dirty dozen list for pesticides, so we are glad to grow them.

Bugs? Bacteria? If we have bugs on our garden produce we don't fret nor apply pesticides. As far as we're concerned some bug damage just shows it's fit to eat, lol. Bacteria? Other than washing we do nothing out of the ordinary. That falls into the category of "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger", lol.


Nice

I knew people who deliberately chose vegetables and fruit with signs of bug damages because that meant they didn't have pesticide, or didn't have too much
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Old 04-28-2024, 11:48 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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.......What do you all think?
I think that if you are buying your lettuce at the supermarket, you should wash it before you eat it.

The same goes for any fresh fruit or vegetables that you buy, whether they are labeled organic or not. If you wash the produce and use some fairly normal food safety practices, you don't have to worry about getting sick from veggies.

Even my home grown stuff, where I know exactly what has been put on it, what it has been fed, and what the soil is like, all get a rinse before anyone eats them. (well, except for the tomatoes which we pluck and eat right off the vine)

I also do not think it matters whether or not produce is organic. Any and all produce has the potential to carry protozoa and bacteria that has come from the environment it was grown in or from the persons who harvested and packed it.
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Old 05-02-2024, 03:20 PM
 
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I think that if you are buying your lettuce at the supermarket, you should wash it before you eat it.

The same goes for any fresh fruit or vegetables that you buy, whether they are labeled organic or not. If you wash the produce and use some fairly normal food safety practices, you don't have to worry about getting sick from veggies.

Even my home grown stuff, where I know exactly what has been put on it, what it has been fed, and what the soil is like, all get a rinse before anyone eats them. (well, except for the tomatoes which we pluck and eat right off the vine)

I also do not think it matters whether or not produce is organic. Any and all produce has the potential to carry protozoa and bacteria that has come from the environment it was grown in or from the persons who harvested and packed it.

Any kind of fruit/vegetable that isn't bagged or you wouldn't peel should be washed before you eat it. Not because of pesticides, but because you never know when little Danny Dummy's finger just went from nose to butt to every apple or whatever in the bin.

Or worse.. Butt to nose to apple.

Even worse than that.. Little Danny Dummy's parent doing it.

Even those that you do peel, you're handling them.. So.. Transfer to your hands..

As for stuff you grow at home.. Well.. Are you sure your neighbor's poodle didn't take a piddle on it at some time?
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Old 05-04-2024, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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To me, organic just means you pay extra for bugs and dirt. My stores have beautiful clean produce, for less $$, and it hasn’t killed us yet.
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Old 05-04-2024, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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I think that if you are buying your lettuce at the supermarket, you should wash it before you eat it.

The same goes for any fresh fruit or vegetables that you buy, whether they are labeled organic or not. If you wash the produce and use some fairly normal food safety practices, you don't have to worry about getting sick from veggies.

Even my home grown stuff, where I know exactly what has been put on it, what it has been fed, and what the soil is like, all get a rinse before anyone eats them. (well, except for the tomatoes which we pluck and eat right off the vine)

I also do not think it matters whether or not produce is organic. Any and all produce has the potential to carry protozoa and bacteria that has come from the environment it was grown in or from the persons who harvested and packed it.
Yes, crops may be fertilized with manure that was never composted and is still teeming with bacteria . Crops may be watered from microbia-laden water sources - for example recycled water or water that's been contaminated with agricultural manure runoff. Drinking water needs to pass a certain standard of sanitation, but crop water does not - it does not even need to be tested, let alone clean. Field workers may take a dump and then not wash their hands, and then go on to handle your lettuce. There are many possible common routes to contaminated veggies.
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