[flamadiddle]

Originally Posted by move4ward

There are so many deaths that it takes 3-4 weeks to report. If you check again next week, the deaths for Aug 21–Sep 21 will show higher numbers than today. Do a screenshot and of the numbers as of today. Repeat the exercise every week until October 22nd. We will see most of the deaths for Sept 15-21st.

Never happened. Covid/Delta are done.


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ds_dailydeaths

[SanyBelle]

Originally Posted by flamadiddle

Never happened. Covid/Delta are done.


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ds_dailydeaths

Numbers are down but this graph is incorrect. There were 409 deaths reported Wednesday and 884 reported Monday. The real death numbers are not reported in this graph. Read my post from 10/7, here's what I posted:

8/27 - 336
8/29 - 574
9/1 - 314
9/3 - 415
9/7 - 647
9/8 - 1293
9/9 - 508
9/13 - 477
9/16 - 1554
9/19 - 1059
9/22 - 1207
9/26 - 939
9/29 - 939
10/3 - 608

I omitted the days that have 0-10 deaths reported. The statistics are sometimes "stealth" updated. What I mean by that: early in the evening about 6pm on 9/26 the numbers are updated to 10 deaths. All the media agencies take that number and report that in their totals. Then there is another update on the same day approx 10pm to 939 as shown above. These additional 929 deaths are never reported by those who scrape the numbers for their media reports. It's been happening for the last year that I have been manually keeping a spreadsheet. Now granted, my numbers come from WorldOmeters which can have reporting deficiencies themselves, but the number of "stealth" updates to me that I've seen over the past year makes me curious as to what is really going on. Is the state fudging numbers? Maybe, maybe not. We will never know.

[SanyBelle]

Numbers from Worldometers.info. Hospital numbers from Florida Hospital Association.

Date.............Total Cases.....Total Deaths....New Cases......New Deaths...Today's Tests
Thur 10/14...... 3,664,013.........57,711
Fri 10/15......... 3,666,834.........57,711..........2,821........... ..NR..............82,974

Fri 10/15 Hospitalizations 2,938 -131

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by SanyBelle

Numbers are down but this graph is incorrect. There were 409 deaths reported Wednesday and 884 reported Monday. The real death numbers are not reported in this graph. Read my post from 10/7, here's what I posted:

Sometimes the late data being changed for a date can be due to the time of death and the office handling the filing of the information may be closed by then, so can't do it the same day.

[SanyBelle]

Originally Posted by Racer46

Sometimes the late data being changed for a date can be due to the time of death and the office handling the filing of the information may be closed by then, so can't do it the same day.

That's very true. But the graphs then don't show the real death count, they continue to show the low number of deaths (example 10 vs. 929) instead of updating to the higher number. I don't think it's to "trick" people into thinking there are few deaths, but it does not give an accurate view of what is still occurring.

[SanyBelle]

Numbers from Worldometers.info. Hospital numbers from Florida Hospital Association.

Date...............Total Cases.....Total Deaths....New Cases......New Deaths...Today's Tests
Fri 10/15........ 3,666,834.........57,711
Sat 10/16....... 3,669,410.........57,712...........2,576.......... .....1................50,433

Sat 10/16 Hospitalizations NR

[WRnative]

The Japanese COVID experience once again demonstrates the incompetency of American, and especially Florida's, COVID public health policies. Discouraging mask-wearing and coddling anti-vax sentiments has resulted in great harm to the American society and economy. Note that Japan never has used lockdowns such as those employed in Australia and New Zealand to control its epidemic.

<<Daily new COVID-19 cases have plummeted from a mid-August peak of nearly 6,000 in Tokyo, with caseloads in the densely populated capital now routinely below 100, an 11-month low.

The bars are packed, the trains are crowded, and the mood is celebratory, despite a general bafflement over what, exactly, is behind the sharp drop.

Japan, unlike other places in Europe and Asia, has never had anything close to a lockdown, just a series of relatively toothless states of emergency.

Some possible factors in Japan's success include a belated but remarkably rapid vaccination campaign, an emptying out of many nightlife areas as fears spread during the recent surge in cases, a widespread practice, well before the pandemic, of wearing masks and bad weather in late August that kept people home....

The number of daily shots rose to about 1.5 million in July, pushing vaccination rates from 15% in early July to 65% by early October, exceeding the 57% of the United States.>>

https://www.yahoo.com/news/vaccines-...034036438.html

The Japanese populace self-regulates when dealing with contagion. It does not have prominent political leaders promoting anti-science concepts of "liberty" in the face of a common danger.

As of 10/18, Florida's cases per million population were 170,847 and deaths per million 2,687. In Japan, the statistics were 13,612 and 144, respectively. Cases likely correlate highly with long COVID infection rates.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Six months from now, comparing the U.S. and Florida COVID experiences with those in the likes of Australia and Japan hopefully will result in a political and policy reckoning that will result in an aversion to living with COVID AND finally result in the implementation of both policies and agencies both able and empowered to protect our populations against both new variants and potentially even more lethal viruses. Imagine some more deadly virus, perhaps engineered and introduced into the the U.S., and Americans resist lockdowns and other social distancing measures, the use of masks, and resistance to vaccinations.

It also will be informative as to how California with its relatively stringent mask and vaccine mandates fares in the months ahead versus states such as Florida that aggressively promote anti-mask and anti-vaccine legal protections.

[WRnative]

DeSantis administration fines Leon County $3.5 million for imposing an employee vaccine mandate.

<<The Florida Health Department fined a county government over $3.5 million Tuesday for violating the state's ban on vaccination passports — the first time the state has punished a locality for defying the ban.

The Health Department said in a statement that officials in Leon County, where Tallahassee, the state capital, is located, violated state law when they mandated in late July that the county's 700 employees provide proof of vaccination no later than Oct. 1. Then, on Oct. 4, county officials fired 14 employees for failing to comply with the requirement.

"It is unacceptable that Leon County violated Florida law, infringed on current and former employees' medical privacy, and fired loyal public servants because of their personal health decisions," Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, said in a statement.

DeSantis, who has consistently resisted mask and vaccination mandates even as case numbers rise, signed a bill in May to ban vaccination passports — particularly banning local governments from requiring any person, including an employee, to provide proof of vaccination. The law, which took effect last month, also provides for fines of $5,000 per violation.>>

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...ation-n1281390

<<Leon County Administrator Vince Long is vowing to defend the capital county's vaccine mandate at the same time that 14 employees were terminated for non-compliance....

Leon County employees are on the front lines combating COVID-19, now for more than 19 straight months. They have risen to seemingly endless challenges and have adapted to perform their duties in ways none of us ever contemplated. And like far too many organizations, we have also lost beloved County team members to COVID-19, suddenly and tragically.

As we have done throughout the pandemic, Leon County will continue to do everything reasonable and responsible to protect our community, to provide a safe and healthy workplace for our employees, to ensure the uninterrupted provision of essential services, and to be ready to respond to changing and unknown challenges ahead. >>

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/ne...ed/5967769001/

[04kL4nD]

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health...-went-missing/

For 105 days this summer, while COVID-19 deaths soared across the state, Floridians had no idea how many of their neighbors were dying.

The Florida Department of Health knows how many people are dying in each county, but stopped telling the public on June 4. That’s when state officials stopped releasing daily pandemic data, switched to weekly reports and started withholding data once available to the public.

Instead of including county deaths in its weekly reports, the state directed the public to find that information via the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But the CDC relied on Florida’s online portal of COVID data — which the state also took down in June. The CDC’s tally of deaths for Florida went blank.

This is old news for anyone who's been following the data closely, but I'd be pretty livid if I were a Floridian just finding this out...

[SanyBelle]

Numbers from Worldometers.info. Hospital numbers from Florida Hospital Association.

Date...............Total Cases.....Total Deaths....New Cases......New Deaths...Today's Tests
Sat 10/16....... 3,669,410.........57,712
Sun 10/17...... 3,670,909.........58,140...........1,499.......... .....428..............NR

Sun 10/17 Hospitalizations NR