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Do you know any countries where suburbs and outskirts of the cities are beautiful?
Canada. My 60's era subburb east of Toronto is much more appealing than Toronto's sterile downtown core where I work, and it doesn't suffer from Toronto's problems with crime, gun violence, homelessness, pollution, inefficient public transit and lack of quality green spaces.
It actually looks a lot like the houses we have in the wealthier hoods in the Netherlands. Ever heard of the Dutch architect Rietveld? This style is a lot like it
I've actually seen a lot of this kind of farm houses when I was in Varmland, Sweden. But of course the Americans developed their own style over time.
No, but the style looks indeed similar.
Same style yes, but that's maybe not the most typical style for old farmhouses, at least here.
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Originally Posted by JennyMominRI
My sister lives in a Double house in a new community in Florida.
Most suburbs from the mid to late 20th century don't have them, older areas in some parts of the country, mainly the Northeast have them. Most common in Pennsylvania, not so common in the western US — older homes were mostly single family detached there. Here's an example near me:
Not the nicest of examples, it's 100 year old housing built then for local factory workers. Factory is gone, but survives as lower end homes — seemed like there were a lot of children in that neighborhood. In an area with very cheap housing, these may have seen decay or abandonment. Nicer example:
More common in New England is one unit above the other, rather than side by side. But those mean it's harder for both units to be owner-occupied rather one being a rental. New neighborhoods of "doubles" not far from the first example:
not that different from those "sardine suburbs" you criticized. But it's surrounded by preserved land, including a wetland area and a small mountain nearby. Bike path passes through connecting it with two nice town centers. Wouldn't mind it that much.
But it's not due to moral superiority. In Europe, affordable (to the average consumer) and habitable land is in much shorter supply than it is in the US.
I already gave you the answer in the other thread, i agree, a different environment leads to a different view on the subject and lifestyle
I'm actually a partizan of suburbs that look like that. They look like a futuristic neighborhood. Homes in the outer suburbs in Australia are starting to look like that way.
A planned suburb in Sydney's west:
Really, they look monothone if anything, i prefer older suburbs in the North Eastern USA (They are the only kind of suburb i actually like, especially as they are close to their city centers), i have to admit they have character and are even better and more appealing when there are commercial avenues close by.
Ha! The complete opposite for me. Just take the elevator and you're down on the street with shops and cafés. Perfect!
I'm the same. I love how on a busy Friday night when I'm walking home there are tons of people on the street coming and going. Shops, cafe, restaurants etc. Full of life.
Within a minute I'm back home in my condo ( great views of the city and water ) which is extremely quiet, surprisingly so.
When I stay overnight at friends in the burbs, the next morning I can't wait to get back to the city.
I'm the same. I love how on a busy Friday night when I'm walking home there are tons of people on the street coming and going. Shops, cafe, restaurants etc. Full of life.
Within a minute I'm back home in my condo ( great views of the city and water ) which is extremely quiet, surprisingly so.
When I stay overnight at friends in the burbs, the next morning I can't wait to get back to the city.
I love living in the burbs, but I really would like to spend a few years living in a mid-sized European city.
At different times in my life I have wanted different lifestyles.
So you are an architect? Wooden houses are common in Finland, Sweden and Norway and have been for centuries. Norway had wooden churches 8-900 years ago.
sure, wooden houses with porches and southern style verandas are SUPER FINNISH! when I lived in Europe I got the feeling nordic, dutch and german people really try to be like the US
germans would take holidays in places like Tallahassee florida (Who wants to go to Tallahassee? hehehe) and some super excited would tell you about their experiences in Iowa
my answer was always the same.... a gigantic world full of diversity and cultures and you chose to go to Iowa? heheheh
also swedish felt very American wannabe and dutch even more, the Dutch might just as well call themselves Americans
Belgians, swiss, french, spaniards, italians, felt more proud and with more identity... but the dutch, germans, nordic folks I met it's like talking to Americans with an accent, some even try to imitate the American lingo and use words like dude, omg, whatever etc. (but with their foreign european accent obviously)
if I wanna see Americans I'll go to the US, I don't wanna go to Stockholm to see America wannabe!
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Just take the elevator and you're down on the street with shops and cafés. Perfect!