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Last Friday I was talked to about excessive absenteeism. So far this year I've taken 3.9 hours of personal time and 4 sick days (yes someone upstairs evidently documents all your time even you leave 15 minutes early). Then I was asked if I ever received an employee handbook (they couldn't find a form we are supposed to sign which is why they asked me). I said no I haven't (I've been here 1.5 years). I'm having such a hard time with this because I was always treated like a professional throughout my entire career (I'm 58). I never treated my 25 direct reports this way either. It was always a give and take.
My questions to you are 1) Do you think this is excessive absenteeism? 2) If there is no written policy about personal time or sick time is there anything an employee can do? I perused the entire employee manual and there is nothing. 3) How would you handle this if you thought this was absurd and knew you were stuck there? I'm seriously considering asking to become hourly so I don't have to deal with this. (I have already been trying to find a new job but have been turned down twice in the past year). Looking forward to your thoughts.
Seems a bit nit-picky to me. I would calmly ask for guidance and say, without being defensive, ask where it's noted in the employee handbook. Seems even more strange since you're not hourly.
4 days in 8 months plus a few hours personal time? I wouldn't call it excessive.
One thing I will say is the salaried folks always seem to be absent more than us hourly guys... I haven't missed a day of work in over 2 years. Honestly don't remember the last time... I just know it was in 2016. We've got salaried folks here who miss 3-4 days every month and somehow get away with it. They can have it though... I'll take the OT that comes with hourly.
Last Friday I was talked to about excessive absenteeism. So far this year I've taken 3.9 hours of personal time and 4 sick days (yes someone upstairs evidently documents all your time even you leave 15 minutes early). Then I was asked if I ever received an employee handbook (they couldn't find a form we are supposed to sign which is why they asked me). I said no I haven't (I've been here 1.5 years). I'm having such a hard time with this because I was always treated like a professional throughout my entire career (I'm 58). I never treated my 25 direct reports this way either. It was always a give and take.
My questions to you are 1) Do you think this is excessive absenteeism? 2) If there is no written policy about personal time or sick time is there anything an employee can do? I perused the entire employee manual and there is nothing. 3) How would you handle this if you thought this was absurd and knew you were stuck there? I'm seriously considering asking to become hourly so I don't have to deal with this. (I have already been trying to find a new job but have been turned down twice in the past year). Looking forward to your thoughts.
They're worried about revenue.
Your sick days represent lost revenue.
Because they KNOW you'll use all your vacation days, they count on employees to be relatively healthy so they don't lose too much revenue. If you've used 4 sick days, and the year is barely half-through, they look at you like you're going to cost them $.
I'm not saying you're at fault, I'm just telling you how companies view it. And the more candid companies will call you out on it yes.
My company would definitely do such a thing, but we have PTO, so they don't have to bother.
I think there's a missing piece here. Something about the line "... documents your time even if you leave 15 minutes early" makes me think this is more about leaving early without documenting it than it is about a few hours and sick days in eight months. Like where I work. We're expected to be professional employees in all aspects except our time is tracked hourly so it can be billed hourly.
I think there's a missing piece here. Something about the line "... documents your time even if you leave 15 minutes early" makes me think this is more about leaving early without documenting it than it is about a few hours and sick days in eight months. Like where I work. We're expected to be professional employees in all aspects except our time is tracked hourly so it can be billed hourly.
Last Friday I was talked to about excessive absenteeism. So far this year I've taken 3.9 hours of personal time and 4 sick days (yes someone upstairs evidently documents all your time even you leave 15 minutes early). Then I was asked if I ever received an employee handbook (they couldn't find a form we are supposed to sign which is why they asked me). I said no I haven't (I've been here 1.5 years). I'm having such a hard time with this because I was always treated like a professional throughout my entire career (I'm 58). I never treated my 25 direct reports this way either. It was always a give and take.
My questions to you are 1) Do you think this is excessive absenteeism? 2) If there is no written policy about personal time or sick time is there anything an employee can do? I perused the entire employee manual and there is nothing. 3) How would you handle this if you thought this was absurd and knew you were stuck there? I'm seriously considering asking to become hourly so I don't have to deal with this. (I have already been trying to find a new job but have been turned down twice in the past year). Looking forward to your thoughts.
1) As you presented it, no.
2) Ask them to define exactly what their objections are, in writing. Ask them for exact definitions of when you may and may not take personal time or sick time, in writing.
3) What would I do? In a situation where I find out someone is nit-picking away, closely monitoring my time, looking for an excuse to complain or hang me? Find another job. You say you've tried, but how hard? As hard as if you were unemployed now? They say treat looking for a job like a job, so maybe you need two jobs for a while?
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