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Thanks grammar poster! Next time I will take the time to check my quick posting as I know it needs to be to the level of a memo or something I submit at work, after all, that is what forum entertainment is all about!
Anyway, yes, skills, you know all those classes that are in the program. Your MBA not teach you anything? Heck, the statistical and project management training alone makes it worth it.
I realize that, but what's the point in pursing something that doesn't interest you? That was the point being made.
You pursue something to make money, you can go to the library or something for interests. The woman in this story obviously pursued her degrees with the purpose of making money, and she so far has failed at it.
If you graduated with an MBA and don't have any skills, you did something very, very wrong. Classmates of mine were able to pass the CFA levels 1 and 2 with MBA knowledge alone and no additional studying.
This morning I was reducing the correlation related to geographical sectors in the funds of 401k accounts. That was a skill I learned in my MBA.
"If one attends Columbia or Princeton, there are far better chances of being placed in top tier corporations"
Perhaps but post 2008 I don't think anyone can realistically advocate for top tier corporations. Like it not but after the bailouts business isn't nearly as attractive as what it once was. I've seen more volume going to the public sector and non profits in the past five years.
Are you serious? Offer a job at JPMorgan or Goldman to 100 students and let's see how many turn them down. There is a niche that opts for public sector and non profits but most motivated and ambitious students still target the top tier corporations and I doubt that is going to change. "Bailout business" was a phase and it has passed.
Look at the placement report from HBS, Columbia Business School and NYU. How many opted for non profit and government jobs? Hardly 5%!
I found a decent job within a couple of months of graduating and I had no internships.
Such a dumb argument! Just because you scored a job without internship, does that mean that is what everyone should do? Having an internship is a very valuable asset and a must in a very competitive job market.
Majoring in English = Fruit from the 'Whatever' attitude.
what I find intriguing with this group is when going to school it's all about education for education sake and not about money. Iit's all about developing critical thinking skills and blah blah.. It`s about the college experience and not at all about money. But after graduation it soon warps into money and how they were duped into believing college was the way.
While this woman did make a costly mistake, she can turn it around.
She can easily turn it around; for example, she can start seeing how it takes to move up in retail, including Goodwill, as she has the educational requirements to do so, perhaps apply for internal promotions, or look outward at Walmart and start off as a zone manager (whatever the first line manager is called), many opportunities for her.
That's it. To a certain extent you can work your way up even if you come from a non-elite school but it's soo much easier when you graduate from the right places. There are so fewer hoops to jump through.
A whole bunch of H1B workers didnt graduate from prestigious schools. I didnt even graduate from a good school. Heck I didnt even have good grades. All I did was start at a small place for 2-3 years then later I moved to the company where the guys from prestigious schools go to work. So I'm just behind a litte bit
what I find intriguing with this group is when going to school it's all about education for education sake and not about money. Iit's all about developing critical thinking skills and blah blah.. It`s about the college experience and not at all about money. But after graduation it soon warps into money and hoe they were duped into believing college was the way.
First off, with these situations that are presented, we're taking a look into the worst of the worst case scenarios most of the time. The majority of people aren't necessarily experiencing this.
Secondly, education is still important and people should value it. It's stopped amazing me how many people on here come out overly-critical and bashing a college education while intensively lacking the most fundamental critical thinking and grammatical skills themselves. I think the ranting goes a little something like this: "Boy, look at all these winers. i'm so glad i didnt go to colage myself. These winey brats are so entitled, they think everything should be handed to them. There in for a long road ahead if they think its going to get any easyer. Your going to need to stop crying and figure something out to make money!!!"
Thirdly, people are frustrated because they didn't think that their (often times expensive and difficult) education would make them unemployable. I'll give them that at least. It can be frustrating out there.
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